Rangel wants to draft 18-42 to continue with the war for Israel agenda

Well, we cannot attack the Bush twins nor any others their age or families
because we still have an all volunteer force. No one is forced into uniform
nowadays and I believe that is just plain wrong.

EVERY AMERICAN should spend some time in uniform and somewhere overseas to
finally appreciate what we have here.

The boys go fight and get blown up and shot at while the girls stay in
support functions where they may be a little safer. Iraq is special now
because no place is any safer than any other so many of our girls get hurt
and killed anyway.

Charlie Rangel is just about sensible enough to be a true Conservative if
his views on anything else are as sound.

I SO MUCH HATE having to agree with a Democrat!!!

But, what is right is just - RIGHT!

....and the left is wrong!


"tomcervo" wrote in message
oups.com...

POIUYT wrote:
BUT SERIOUSLY -

I have ALWAYS advocated mandatory military service! We learn things
while
in uniform, especially in war time that cannot be learned anywhere else
and
everyone who has gone thru has come out a much better person for it.

AND - before you loud liberals start talking crap - I served for a little
over 20 years in uniform and was in MANY messes from Vietnam thru Desert
Storm.


From his bio:
"Congressman Rangel served in the U.S. Army from 1948-52, during which
time he fought in Korea and was awarded the Purple Heart and Bronze
Star. "

So he's coming from a similar place as you. He does this every so
often, when millionaires in the Congress and the Chattering Classes
start talking about enforcing America's strength in the world--whose
sinews don't include any of their children or their friends' children.
I mean, who's seen Jenna and Not-Jenna lately? I know the press office
says they're in Africa, changing diapers on AIDS babies, at least the
ones who make it to the resort beaches.

"POIUYT" wrote in message
...

Well, we cannot attack the Bush twins nor any others their age or families
because we still have an all volunteer force. No one is forced into
uniform nowadays and I believe that is just plain wrong.

EVERY AMERICAN should spend some time in uniform and somewhere overseas to
finally appreciate what we have here.


No freedom-loving American advocates forcing anyone into uniform.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
nk.net...

"POIUYT" wrote in message
...

Well, we cannot attack the Bush twins nor any others their age or
families because we still have an all volunteer force. No one is forced
into uniform nowadays and I believe that is just plain wrong.

EVERY AMERICAN should spend some time in uniform and somewhere overseas
to finally appreciate what we have here.


No freedom-loving American advocates forcing anyone into uniform.

One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the price. I
know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we aren't willing
to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom.

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:00:01 -0700, "Daryl Hunt"
wrote:


"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
ink.net...

"POIUYT" wrote in message
...

Well, we cannot attack the Bush twins nor any others their age or
families because we still have an all volunteer force. No one is forced
into uniform nowadays and I believe that is just plain wrong.

EVERY AMERICAN should spend some time in uniform and somewhere overseas
to finally appreciate what we have here.


No freedom-loving American advocates forcing anyone into uniform.

One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the price. I
know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we aren't willing
to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom.


The last time you went for a slave army, it didn't work out too
well.


Peter Skelton

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:26:46 -0500, Peter Skelton
wrote:

One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the price. I
know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we aren't willing
to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom.


The last time you went for a slave army, it didn't work out too
well.

By your definition all the major forces of WWII were "slave" armies.

The NVA was also a "slave" army.

So was Saddam's. So is Israel's.

So maybe your as full of **** as a Thanksgiving turkey.

Bill Kambic
Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN
Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:26:03 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:26:46 -0500, Peter Skelton
wrote:

One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the price. I
know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we aren't willing
to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom.


The last time you went for a slave army, it didn't work out too
well.

By your definition all the major forces of WWII were "slave" armies.

The NVA was also a "slave" army.

So was Saddam's. So is Israel's.

So maybe your as full of **** as a Thanksgiving turkey.

Those armies are either losers, countries under real peril, or
both. Nonetheless, you are correct, they were slave armies by the
definition I used.

My statement is obviously correct, you could not challenge it.

It's interesting that you stuff your turkeys with ****, it
possibly explains a lot. We have better recipies here in
Canukistan.

Peter Skelton

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:02:31 -0500, Peter Skelton
wrote:

My statement is obviously correct, you could not challenge it.

I did not challenge it. I only pointed out a historical fact. Some
"slave" armies won, some lost.

It's interesting that you stuff your turkeys with ****, it
possibly explains a lot. We have better recipies here in
Canukistan.

I met some fine Canadians at Ft. Knox earlier this year. I've
relatives in Toronto. I've visited many times over my 12 lustrums.
Most I've met were "salt of the earth" folks.

But there are exceptions to every rule.

My comment addresses the following exchange:

Regarding mandatory, uniformed service, McNicoll says, "No
freedom-loving American advocates forcing anyone into uniform."

Hunt replies:

"One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the
price. I know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we
aren't willing to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom."

You then chime in with a non-sequitur: "The last time you went for a
slave army, it didn't work out too well."

Aside from the sheer illogiic of your comment you display the typical
lack of historical knowledge or perspective common in North American
Yuppiescum and their spawn. I'm not sure what your point was. I
doubt you know what your point was.

Bill Kambic
Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN
Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

Daryl Hunt wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
nk.net...
"POIUYT" wrote in message
...
Well, we cannot attack the Bush twins nor any others their age or
families because we still have an all volunteer force. No one is forced
into uniform nowadays and I believe that is just plain wrong.

EVERY AMERICAN should spend some time in uniform and somewhere overseas
to finally appreciate what we have here.

No freedom-loving American advocates forcing anyone into uniform.

One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the price. I
know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we aren't willing
to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom.

Ironically, freedom also requires us to tolerate drooling half-wits with
Internet access. Why don't give us a break and go back to teaching
junior college poli-sci?

Cheers

==bob

"Daryl Hunt" wrote in message
...

No freedom-loving American advocates forcing anyone into uniform.


One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the price. I
know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we aren't
willing to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom.


You don't have freedom if you're forced to do something.

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 01:53:29 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:


"POIUYT" wrote in message
...

Well, we cannot attack the Bush twins nor any others their age or families
because we still have an all volunteer force. No one is forced into
uniform nowadays and I believe that is just plain wrong.

EVERY AMERICAN should spend some time in uniform and somewhere overseas to
finally appreciate what we have here.


No freedom-loving American advocates forcing anyone into uniform.

Damn straight. That son of a bitch FDR who instituted a PEACETIME
draft must have been a real tyrant.

please note the tongue stuck firmly in the cheek when considering the
above comment

Bill Kambic
Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN
Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão