Rangel wants to draft 18-42 to continue with the war for Israel agenda

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"POIUYT" wrote in message
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Well, we cannot attack the Bush twins nor any others their age or
families because we still have an all volunteer force. No one is forced
into uniform nowadays and I believe that is just plain wrong.

EVERY AMERICAN should spend some time in uniform and somewhere overseas
to finally appreciate what we have here.


No freedom-loving American advocates forcing anyone into uniform.

One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the price. I
know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we aren't willing
to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom.

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:00:01 -0700, "Daryl Hunt"
wrote:


"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"POIUYT" wrote in message
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Well, we cannot attack the Bush twins nor any others their age or
families because we still have an all volunteer force. No one is forced
into uniform nowadays and I believe that is just plain wrong.

EVERY AMERICAN should spend some time in uniform and somewhere overseas
to finally appreciate what we have here.


No freedom-loving American advocates forcing anyone into uniform.

One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the price. I
know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we aren't willing
to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom.


The last time you went for a slave army, it didn't work out too
well.


Peter Skelton

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:26:46 -0500, Peter Skelton
wrote:

One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the price. I
know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we aren't willing
to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom.


The last time you went for a slave army, it didn't work out too
well.

By your definition all the major forces of WWII were "slave" armies.

The NVA was also a "slave" army.

So was Saddam's. So is Israel's.

So maybe your as full of **** as a Thanksgiving turkey.

Bill Kambic
Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN
Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:26:03 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:26:46 -0500, Peter Skelton
wrote:

One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the price. I
know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we aren't willing
to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom.


The last time you went for a slave army, it didn't work out too
well.

By your definition all the major forces of WWII were "slave" armies.

The NVA was also a "slave" army.

So was Saddam's. So is Israel's.

So maybe your as full of **** as a Thanksgiving turkey.

Those armies are either losers, countries under real peril, or
both. Nonetheless, you are correct, they were slave armies by the
definition I used.

My statement is obviously correct, you could not challenge it.

It's interesting that you stuff your turkeys with ****, it
possibly explains a lot. We have better recipies here in
Canukistan.

Peter Skelton

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:02:31 -0500, Peter Skelton
wrote:

My statement is obviously correct, you could not challenge it.

I did not challenge it. I only pointed out a historical fact. Some
"slave" armies won, some lost.

It's interesting that you stuff your turkeys with ****, it
possibly explains a lot. We have better recipies here in
Canukistan.

I met some fine Canadians at Ft. Knox earlier this year. I've
relatives in Toronto. I've visited many times over my 12 lustrums.
Most I've met were "salt of the earth" folks.

But there are exceptions to every rule.

My comment addresses the following exchange:

Regarding mandatory, uniformed service, McNicoll says, "No
freedom-loving American advocates forcing anyone into uniform."

Hunt replies:

"One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the
price. I know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we
aren't willing to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom."

You then chime in with a non-sequitur: "The last time you went for a
slave army, it didn't work out too well."

Aside from the sheer illogiic of your comment you display the typical
lack of historical knowledge or perspective common in North American
Yuppiescum and their spawn. I'm not sure what your point was. I
doubt you know what your point was.

Bill Kambic
Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN
Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:25:36 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:02:31 -0500, Peter Skelton
wrote:

My statement is obviously correct, you could not challenge it.

I did not challenge it. I only pointed out a historical fact. Some
"slave" armies won, some lost.

In other words, you could not challenge it, I pointed out a
historical fact.

It's interesting that you stuff your turkeys with ****, it
possibly explains a lot. We have better recipies here in
Canukistan.

I met some fine Canadians at Ft. Knox earlier this year. I've
relatives in Toronto. I've visited many times over my 12 lustrums.
Most I've met were "salt of the earth" folks.

But there are exceptions to every rule.

My comment addresses the following exchange:

Regarding mandatory, uniformed service, McNicoll says, "No
freedom-loving American advocates forcing anyone into uniform."

Hunt replies:

"One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the
price. I know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we
aren't willing to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom."

You then chime in with a non-sequitur: "The last time you went for a
slave army, it didn't work out too well."

Are you calling it a non-sequiter because it is true, because it
disagrees with your opinion, or both?

Aside from the sheer illogiic of your comment you display the typical
lack of historical knowledge or perspective common in North American
Yuppiescum and their spawn. I'm not sure what your point was. I
doubt you know what your point was.

What illogic? Are you trying to say that the Vietnam draft had a
good effect on the US? When a Repubnazi accuses someone of
something, like lack of knowledge, it is invariably a description
of himself.

Incidentally I agree with what Mr. Hunt has to say, but he fails
to address a crucial issue, whether such a draft would result in
a capable military.

If you're bloody stupid enough to go against modern military
opinion which holds that very high standards of personal
capability and character are essential to operate a modern
military, there's little hope for you.

Peter Skelton

I'm not going to try to work through who said what and for what reason,
but would like to point out that at least two people think that the
draft was good.

My sister and I were discussing "our era" draft recently. She's a
retired Commander and my sign-off hints at my pay grade. We came from a
navy background and joined during the 1950s.
We grew up in a uppr-class bedroom suburb of Boston and it's unlikely
that we would have been exposed so closely to the American mixture of
races, religions, national backgrounds, etc had the draft not been in
effect during our time.
We both feel that we gained from this long-term exposure. Everyone is
an individual and we know enough not to think that we "know" their
thoughts or likely actions because of their ethnic background.

You can argue about what, if any, gain or loss the forces had from the
draft (I think it did), but it is damn certain that the nation, as a
whole, did gain.

What illogic? Are you trying to say that the Vietnam draft had a
good effect on the US? When a Repubnazi accuses someone of
something, like lack of knowledge, it is invariably a description
of himself.

SeaWoe

Daryl Hunt wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
nk.net...
"POIUYT" wrote in message
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Well, we cannot attack the Bush twins nor any others their age or
families because we still have an all volunteer force. No one is forced
into uniform nowadays and I believe that is just plain wrong.

EVERY AMERICAN should spend some time in uniform and somewhere overseas
to finally appreciate what we have here.

No freedom-loving American advocates forcing anyone into uniform.

One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the price. I
know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we aren't willing
to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom.

Ironically, freedom also requires us to tolerate drooling half-wits with
Internet access. Why don't give us a break and go back to teaching
junior college poli-sci?

Cheers

==bob

"Daryl Hunt" wrote in message
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No freedom-loving American advocates forcing anyone into uniform.


One can be a freedom loving American but have to understand the price. I
know of a whole two generations that paid that price. If we aren't
willing to pay that price then we don't deserve freedom.


You don't have freedom if you're forced to do something.