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Instrument Rated pilots don't land on the gauges, they use visual
reference. I am one who supports practicing, with a safety pilot of course, flying an ILS all the way to touchdown a couple of times a year (you know the drill -- start backing off throttle at the MM, give up on glide slope, keep the localizer centered, feel ground effect, flare and touch down). Don't do it in a crosswind. Knowing you can gives you one more tool should conditions really turn to crap in real life. On Nov 23, 4:54 pm, Mxsmanic wrote: Jay Honeck writes: Yet, even when I downloaded his current aircraft, and set him up at his home airport, he was not able to land on the runway. The only thing I can think of is that he apparently flies his real aircraft "by feel" more than most of us do, and the simulator obviously is lacking in "feel", since it is not a full-motion sim.Yup. Put him in a full-motion sim, and I'm sure he'll be able to land effortlessly. Turn off the motion in the full-motion sim, and you'll probably see the same problems you're seeing in your sim. Does this pilot ever fly IFR? It will be interesting to see if the new computer system I've ordered -- which will help to make the sim experience as realistic as possible -- helps the situation, or if it's strictly a motion-related problem that can't be resolved.Instrument-rated pilots apparently resolve it. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Tony writes:
Instrument Rated pilots don't land on the gauges, they use visual reference. What is Category III c? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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![]() Mxsmanic wrote: Tony writes: Instrument Rated pilots don't land on the gauges, they use visual reference. What is Category III c? Not relavant to this newsgroup. And even if it was a pilot isn't landing a Cat 3c airplane, the computer is. |
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Newps writes:
Not relavant to this newsgroup. Instrument approaches and landings are not relevant to a piloting newsgroup? Why? And even if it was a pilot isn't landing a Cat 3c airplane, the computer is. Then why does the pilot have to be instrument rated? How many times have you landed in zero visibility? You don't just push a button. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: And even if it was a pilot isn't landing a Cat 3c airplane, the computer is. Then why does the pilot have to be instrument rated? How many times have you landed in zero visibility? You don't just push a button. In Cat IIIC you do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_Landing_System |
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How many times have you landed in zero visibility? You don't just
push a button. In Cat IIIC you do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_Landing_System He was wrong again. At least that is a consistent thing, for him. -- Jim in NC |
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"Morgans" wrote in news:zVE9h.201$Th4.128
@newsfe07.lga: How many times have you landed in zero visibility? You don't just push a button. In Cat IIIC you do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_Landing_System He was wrong again. At least that is a consistent thing, for him. Yeah... He is quite a phenomenon. I have killfiled him, but when he makes a stupid one-liner remark that is easily and factually refuted with a link, I just can't help myself. |
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Judah writes:
In Cat IIIC you do. No, you don't. There's quite a procedure to carry out an autolanding. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_Landing_System Did you by any chance check to see who wrote this article? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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![]() Mxsmanic wrote: Newps writes: Not relavant to this newsgroup. Instrument approaches and landings are not relevant to a piloting newsgroup? Why? Not Cat 3c. And even if it was a pilot isn't landing a Cat 3c airplane, the computer is. Then why does the pilot have to be instrument rated? How many times have you landed in zero visibility? You don't just push a button. Yes, you do. It's required. Cat 3c is an autoland. The pilot is there to monitor the electronics. He does not land the plane. |
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Newps writes:
Not Cat 3c. Why? All instrument approaches are flown by pilots, including Cat IIIc. Yes, you do. It's required. Cat 3c is an autoland. The pilot is there to monitor the electronics. He does not land the plane. He doesn't autoland by pushing a button. There's quite a checklist. In fact, it appears to be similar in workload to a visual approach, except that the time is spent configuring the FMC or autopilot rather than manipulating the yoke or pedals. And with zero visibility and/or generally bad weather, the stress factor is certainly an additional workload. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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