A reluctance to take the controls

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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No, that's not it. I understand that humans are all uniquely wired,
and that different folks are interested in different things.

No, you obviously don't understand that.

However, I simply can't understand any sentient being passing up the
opportunity to do something unusual, educational, affordable,
challenging, and fun, in a safe, friendly environment.

Your description of the activity includes a variety of subjective terms. If
you truly understood that "humans are all uniquely wired, and that different
folks are interested in different things", you'd also understand that your
passenger may not necessarily agree with your labels.

It would be hard to argue with "unusual" (unless she's a often-passenger,
who flies other airplanes all the time) or "affordable" (it's my assumption
it would cost her nothing). But all of the other words you've used, they
are highly subject to one's perspective. You view the activity that way,
and expect everyone else to.

But not everyone shares your opinion.

This young lady was offered the chance to do something that very few
people will *ever* get to do, doing something that many would give
anything to experience. Her refusal to take the yoke was an unusual
display of timid behavior coming from someone who is normally far from
timid -- which is why I remain puzzled and post my experience here.

Your saying, by way of explanation, that "Everyone is different" only
states the obvious, but doesn't really address the situation or explain
the experience.

It's the best explanation anyone here can offer. You have to ask your
passenger if you want more specific information.

However, it seems to me that until you open your mind to what it means to
TRULY understand that "humans are all uniquely wired, and that different
folks are interested in different things", you are unlikely to have a
productive conversation with her. You're unlikely to comprehend what she
actually tells you, if you cannot get past the idea that she simply may not
characterize the activity using the same terms you do.

Pete

However, it seems to me that until you open your mind to what it means to
TRULY understand that "humans are all uniquely wired, and that different
folks are interested in different things", you are unlikely to have a
productive conversation with her. You're unlikely to comprehend what she
actually tells you, if you cannot get past the idea that she simply may not
characterize the activity using the same terms you do.

I guess you're right. I just think people who don't love to fly are
mis-wired...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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[...]
I've worked a potter's wheel -- but no one has offered me the chance to
work a spotlight, yet.

Which is, of course, the whole point: When offered an opportunity,
don't turn it down!

You are missing the point. First of all, I doubt you will get the
instrument rating someday. Feel free to prove me wrong, but you just don't
strike me as someone who has a serious intent to pursue that rating.

That said, secondly...just because Jose has picked examples that you have
chosen to claim you would do, that doesn't mean that he could not chose
activities for which you have absolutely no interest in.

For example, suppose a gentleman approached you and offered to sodomize you.
Would you accept that opportunity?

How about if someone offers you the opportunity to eat human flesh. Jump at
that, would you?

Everyone has their limits. Yours are likely more expansive than some, but I
doubt they are very far outside the bell curve, and in any case you still
have your limits, whatever they are.

Pete

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I guess you're right. I just think people who don't love to fly are
mis-wired...

I have an extremely hard time comprehending them too. But I do accept that
such people exist, and that no matter how hard I try, there will be an
inherent inability on my part to truly see the world through their eyes.

I'm not sure "mis-wired" is the right term. After all, that implies
something wrong with them. But certainly, they are outside my realm of
experience.

Pete

Newps wrote in news:6_
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Judah wrote:


Name 3.

Myself and because I don't, my two kids are not allowed to while they
live here.

Your kids don't count if they haven't tried it yet.

When I was in the 8th grade, I was madly "in love" with
Patti Jo. At the graduation party she actually came up to
me and asked me if I want to dance. Since there were 40
some witnesses present who could talk about my clumsiness I
said no. That has bothered me for more than 40 years.
Just to prove the point, the worst landing I ever made was
with 3 FAA Inspectors on the airplane.



"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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| Jay, you sound like one of these guys "who just can't
understand how
| somebody could be DIFFERENT than you are". I mean, just
HOW could that
| be???
|
| No, that's not it. I understand that humans are all
uniquely wired,
| and that different folks are interested in different
things.
|
| However, I simply can't understand any sentient being
passing up the
| opportunity to do something unusual, educational,
affordable,
| challenging, and fun, in a safe, friendly environment.
|
| This young lady was offered the chance to do something
that very few
| people will *ever* get to do, doing something that many
would give
| anything to experience. Her refusal to take the yoke was
an unusual
| display of timid behavior coming from someone who is
normally far from
| timid -- which is why I remain puzzled and post my
experience here.
|
| Your saying, by way of explanation, that "Everyone is
different" only
| states the obvious, but doesn't really address the
situation or explain
| the experience.
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
| Pathfinder N56993
|

When I was in the 8th grade, I was madly "in love" with
Patti Jo. At the graduation party she actually came up to
me and asked me if I want to dance. Since there were 40
some witnesses present who could talk about my clumsiness I
said no. That has bothered me for more than 40 years.

So Google her. Maybe she still wants to dance?

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

For example, suppose a gentleman approached you and offered to sodomize you.
Would you accept that opportunity?

How about if someone offers you the opportunity to eat human flesh. Jump at
that, would you?

Ah, Pete, you never let me down, or fail to amuse. Only a true pedant
could possibly take this argument to such extremes, with a straight
face.

Don't ever change!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jim Macklin" wrote in news:W5qah.1003
:

When I was in the 8th grade, I was madly "in love" with
Patti Jo. At the graduation party she actually came up to
me and asked me if I want to dance. Since there were 40
some witnesses present who could talk about my clumsiness I
said no. That has bothered me for more than 40 years.
Just to prove the point, the worst landing I ever made was
with 3 FAA Inspectors on the airplane.

Coulda been worse. One of the FAA inspectors coulda been Patti Jo.

(Scott Post) wrote:
As far as Jay's initial question - I think others have hit the nail on
the head that the passenger was probably just enjoying the scenery and
didn't want to be distracted by flying the plane.

Exactly. Even a pilot can, or should be able to, appreciate that, IMO. I
don't see why, if a person declines, that automatically means he/she is
not experiencing life. That's a pretty big stretch. A lot of people
won't even get INTO a small airplane, so I'd say she's already a step
ahead. You don't have to have the controls to still enjoy the thrill of
flying, and who knows, if no one makes a huge production over the fact
that she declined this extraordinary opportunity, maybe she'll want to
try it one day.