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Ron Garret writes:
So? That just shows that your sim isn't very good. What happens when you let go of the controls on your Baron for 40 minutes? Your other sources are wrong. They are all wrong, but you are right? You'll need a real airplane. Your sim is not adequate. How do you know? For some level of "constant" that is correct. You can leave it alone for seconds to minutes, but not tens of minutes (unless you have an autopilot and are willing to bet your life on its proper operation). I'll have to try it. It's not out of the question that all your sim experience would make you a better IFR pilot than one who trained in a real airplane. Come to LA and we'll find out. As soon as I win the lottery. When your gaze was going back and forth between the chart and the AI and you forgot to look at the altimeter. (Go back a re-read the scenario.) Why would the altimeter change? I was in level flight, nicely trimmed. Of course. Why would you doubt it? Different aircraft behave in different ways. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Mxsmanic wrote: Ron Garret writes: So? That just shows that your sim isn't very good. What happens when you let go of the controls on your Baron for 40 minutes? I don't fly a baron, but I guarantee you that you will be dead. Your other sources are wrong. They are all wrong, but you are right? Yes. You'll need a real airplane. Your sim is not adequate. How do you know? 575 hours of flying real airplanes. It's not out of the question that all your sim experience would make you a better IFR pilot than one who trained in a real airplane. Come to LA and we'll find out. As soon as I win the lottery. Lousy excuse. You can fly round trip from Paris to LA for less than $650. rg |
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Ron Garret writes:
I don't fly a baron, but I guarantee you that you will be dead. Well, I simulated it. Ninety minutes in heavy turbulence with the autopilot off, with the aircraft trimmed for straight and level flight. Throttles were set to allow for neutral elevator trim. The aircraft bounced around a lot, but it lost only 200 feet in altitude, and apparently it intended to stay there. It burned about a quarter of its fuel. It held very approximately a straight line to the southeast, although it drifted back and forth by 10-20 miles at a time. Despite turbulence that sometimes had the aircraft rolling by 20 degrees or more, it remained level overall. There was no tendency for it to flip over. This is pretty much what I expected. Offhand, I can't see any reason why an aircraft would suddenly destabilize itself and spin out of control. At the time I stopped it, it was about 1000 feet above rising terrain (the mountains were coming up, but the aircraft was at a constant altitude). 575 hours of flying real airplanes. How much time have you spent with a simulator? Lousy excuse. You can fly round trip from Paris to LA for less than $650. That's a month's net pay, if things go well. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Mxsmanic wrote: Ron Garret writes: I don't fly a baron, but I guarantee you that you will be dead. Well, I simulated it. I hate to be the one to break this to you kid (and I say this with a certain irony because I know I'm not the first person to tell you this) but your sim is not an accurate model of reality. 575 hours of flying real airplanes. How much time have you spent with a simulator? What difference does that make? This is not rec.aviation.simulators. Context, son! Why so you have so much trouble with context? Lousy excuse. You can fly round trip from Paris to LA for less than $650. That's a month's net pay, if things go well. Really? That surprises me. You're obviously a bright person, and you live in a modern industrialized country where the average annual income is well over $20,000. And yet you make less than $8,000 a year? Even more surprising, although your income places well below the poverty level, you can still afford a computer, a flight simulator setup with rudder pedals, internet access, and a whole lot of spare time to post to newsgroups and play with your sim? It's hard for me to believe that you couldn't scrape together $650 somehow. Take half the hours you spend on usenet and your sim and go work at a McDonald's and you'll have $650 saved before you know it. I'll wait. rg |
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![]() "Ron Garret" wrote in message ... Really? That surprises me. You're obviously a bright person, and you live in a modern industrialized country where the average annual income is well over $20,000. And yet you make less than $8,000 a year? Even more surprising, although your income places well below the poverty level, you can still afford a computer, a flight simulator setup with rudder pedals, internet access, and a whole lot of spare time to post to newsgroups and play with your sim? It's hard for me to believe that you couldn't scrape together $650 somehow. Take half the hours you spend on usenet and your sim and go work at a McDonald's and you'll have $650 saved before you know it. I'll wait. rg He also owns at least 2 domains. One at mxsmaniac.com and the one below which I assume is his real name. Visit http://atkielski.com/ for everything you ever wanted to know about mxs but were afraid to ask. |
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Visit http://atkielski.com/ for everything you ever wanted to know about mxs but were afraid to ask. Interesting site... |
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Interesting site... Interesting blog... -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Ron Garret writes:
I hate to be the one to break this to you kid (and I say this with a certain irony because I know I'm not the first person to tell you this) but your sim is not an accurate model of reality. List the relevant differences in the context of this discussion. What difference does that make? A great deal, especially since you seem to underestimate them. If I am unqualified to speak of real flight because I don't have some arbitrary number of hours of experience as a real pilot, what qualifies you to speak of simulation if you don't have some equally arbitrary number of hours working with simulators? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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![]() Mxsmanic wrote: Ron Garret writes: I hate to be the one to break this to you kid (and I say this with a certain irony because I know I'm not the first person to tell you this) but your sim is not an accurate model of reality. List the relevant differences in the context of this discussion. You've got to be kidding. What difference does that make? If I am unqualified to speak of real flight because I don't have some arbitrary number of hours Nothing arbitrary about zero. of experience as a real pilot, what qualifies you to speak of simulation if you don't have some equally arbitrary number of hours working with simulators? We've all played on a flight sim. |
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Newps writes:
You've got to be kidding. I don't kid. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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