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Judah wrote:
If both I and the CFI are club members, who is providing the aircraft - me or the CFI? (Presumably, I'm paying for it that day.) This is a dodge that many clubs do. They claim they are renting the plane and you have to go deal with the instructor (who are not their employees) separately to avoid the 100 hour inspection. Frankly, we did the 100hours anyway. There is maintenance that needs to be done then anyhow and for things like 172's the inspection when done on a recurrent basis is a no brainer. Also remember than an annual resets the 100 hour clock. Techncially since we had a cheap IA doing our maintenance, we did annuals every 100 hour. |
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Ron Natalie wrote in
: Also remember than an annual resets the 100 hour clock. Techncially since we had a cheap IA doing our maintenance, we did annuals every 100 hour. Doesn't the FAA look down on this practice? I had heard that if an IA is doing numerous Annuals on the same plane in a year, the FAA will flag this as an IA who is somehow trying to cheat the system, or cooking the books, or something. |
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The scope of a 100 hour and an annual inspection are the
same, the difference is that a 100 hour can be done by any A&P and it is only recorded in tie logbook [maintenance record], while an annual must be done by an AI. Appendix D to Part 43-Scope and Detail of Items (as Applicable to the Particular Aircraft) To Be Included in Annual and 100-Hour Inspections (a) Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection shall, before that inspection, remove or open all necessary inspection plates, access doors, fairing, and cowling. He shall thoroughly clean the aircraft and aircraft engine. (b) Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection shall inspect (where applicable) the following components of the fuselage and hull group: (1) Fabric and skin-for deterioration, distortion, other evidence of failure, and defective or insecure attachment of fittings. (2) Systems and components-for improper installation, apparent defects, and unsatisfactory operation. (3) Envelope, gas bags, ballast tanks, and related parts-for poor condition. (c) Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection shall inspect (where applicable) the following components of the cabin and cockpit group: (1) Generally-for uncleanliness and loose equipment that might foul the controls. (2) Seats and safety belts-for poor condition and apparent defects. (3) Windows and windshields-for deterioration and breakage. (4) Instruments-for poor condition, mounting, marking, and (where practicable) improper operation. (5) Flight and engine controls-for improper installation and improper operation. (6) Batteries-for improper installation and improper charge. (7) All systems-for improper installation, poor general condition, apparent and obvious defects, and insecurity of attachment. (d) Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection shall inspect (where applicable) components of the engine and nacelle group as follows: (1) Engine section-for visual evidence of excessive oil, fuel, or hydraulic leaks, and sources of such leaks. (2) Studs and nuts-for improper torquing and obvious defects. (3) Internal engine-for cylinder compression and for metal particles or foreign matter on screens and sump drain plugs. If there is weak cylinder compression, for improper internal condition and improper internal tolerances. (4) Engine mount-for cracks, looseness of mounting, and looseness of engine to mount. (5) Flexible vibration dampeners-for poor condition and deterioration. (6) Engine controls-for defects, improper travel, and improper safetying. (7) Lines, hoses, and clamps-for leaks, improper condition and looseness. (8) Exhaust stacks-for cracks, defects, and improper attachment. (9) Accessories-for apparent defects in security of mounting. (10) All systems-for improper installation, poor general condition, defects, and insecure attachment. (11) Cowling-for cracks, and defects. (e) Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection shall inspect (where applicable) the following components of the landing gear group: (1) All units-for poor condition and insecurity of attachment. (2) Shock absorbing devices-for improper oleo fluid level. (3) Linkages, trusses, and members-for undue or excessive wear fatigue, and distortion. (4) Retracting and locking mechanism-for improper operation. (5) Hydraulic lines-for leakage. (6) Electrical system-for chafing and improper operation of switches. (7) Wheels-for cracks, defects, and condition of bearings. (8) Tires-for wear and cuts. (9) Brakes-for improper adjustment. (10) Floats and skis-for insecure attachment and obvious or apparent defects. (f) Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection shall inspect (where applicable) all components of the wing and center section assembly for poor general condition, fabric or skin deterioration, distortion, evidence of failure, and insecurity of attachment. (g) Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection shall inspect (where applicable) all components and systems that make up the complete empennage assembly for poor general condition, fabric or skin deterioration, distortion, evidence of failure, insecure attachment, improper component installation, and improper component operation. (h) Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection shall inspect (where applicable) the following components of the propeller group: (1) Propeller assembly-for cracks, nicks, binds, and oil leakage. (2) Bolts-for improper torquing and lack of safetying. (3) Anti-icing devices-for improper operations and obvious defects. (4) Control mechanisms-for improper operation, insecure mounting, and restricted travel. (i) Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection shall inspect (where applicable) the following components of the radio group: (1) Radio and electronic equipment-for improper installation and insecure mounting. (2) Wiring and conduits-for improper routing, insecure mounting, and obvious defects. (3) Bonding and shielding-for improper installation and poor condition. (4) Antenna including trailing antenna-for poor condition, insecure mounting, and improper operation. (j) Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection shall inspect (where applicable) each installed miscellaneous item that is not otherwise covered by this listing for improper installation and improper operation. "Judah" wrote in message . .. | Ron Natalie wrote in | : | | Also remember than an annual resets the 100 hour clock. Techncially | since we had a cheap IA doing our maintenance, we did annuals every | 100 hour. | | Doesn't the FAA look down on this practice? I had heard that if an IA is | doing numerous Annuals on the same plane in a year, the FAA will flag this as | an IA who is somehow trying to cheat the system, or cooking the books, or | something. |
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If the CFI rents your airplane and "hires out" to give
instruction he is doing the operation for hire as the airplane operator. If the CFI sends his students to you to rent the airplane and he must be the only CFI available, then it is a shame operation, fraud. The FAA will yank his ticket and you could also find your certificate suspended or revoked. But a business that rents airplanes does not have to do 100 inspections. If a flying club rents or makes available an airplane for a student or higher pilot to rent and does not restrict the choice of instructor who might be in the airplane, then instruction given in an airplane rented and controlled by the student, using an instructor not employed by the club, does not require a 100 inspection. But if the club controls who may fly and instruct, then the club must do the 100 hour inspections. If your friend sends a student pilot to you and you rent or lease the airplane and you allow [insist ] that your friend can't give the instruction unless he pays for the 100 hour inspections, you should be safe from the FAA but not necessarily the IRS or the insurance company. Your friendly CFI can do more flying since he is getting his airplane cheap from you. Ask your attorney who knows business law and the FAA regulations about your legal liability. "Lou" wrote in message oups.com... | | | On Nov 28, 10:24 pm, "Jim Macklin" | wrote: | You own the airplane and have hired a pilot/CFI. This is | not a "for hire "operation. However if you allow the CFI to | sell instruction to other people in your airplane you need | the 100 inspections. | | Also, renting an airplane to even a student pilot is not a | "for hire" operation and the airplane does not need the 100 | inspection. | | -- | James H. Macklin | ATP,CFI,A&P | | | | Is this true? If I own an airplane and a friend who is a CFI keeps | borrowing my plane to instruct a third party for his personal fee, the | plane needs a hundred hour inspection? I'm new at this game, but that | doesn't sound right. My understanding is that if the plane is a rental, | it needs a hundred hour inspection. I am certain that the flying club I | belong to has hundred hour inspections only due to the club rules not | the FAA. The planes in my club are considered owned by each member, not | rented. | Lou | |
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Jim Macklin wrote:
If the CFI rents your airplane and "hires out" to give instruction he is doing the operation for hire as the airplane operator. No, it's not "for hire" as far as the use of that term in the reg. There is specific wording in the 100 hour regulation that covers instruction (in addition to the rule about carrying passengers for hire). |
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