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![]() PilotWeb.org wrote: If ATC uses the term "Cleared for approach" and/or gave you a clearance limit, using the term "Cleared" then yes, you were operating under IFR. No, wrong. Cleared for approach in no way makes you IFR. You must hear the regular clearance items for an IFR clearance. At a minimum you have to be cleared to somewhere via a route(which may be vectors) and assigned an altitude. The actual term IFR isn't usually used on the radio much, (they rarely say anything like "Cleared IFR...") They never do. If you were "cleared for approach" then you violated the regulations for operating under IFR without the appropriate rating and without currency. ATC cannot make you illegal by simply saying cleared for the approach. When doing IFR training under VFR, ATC will use the term, "Practice approach approved", which is the VFR equivalent to "cleared approach", Completely wrong, both are used and used for very different and distinct purposes. that lets' you know that you are still under VFR. It usually sounds like this after being identified... "Citation 98Q, turn right heading 090, descend and maintain 4500 until established, practice approach approved ILS 30C. Maintain VFR" You'll never hear that. Visit our website for more forums, jobs, and to post your profile and resume. I hope somebody there knows what the hell they're talking about. |
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