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Andrew Sarangan schrieb:

I am not sure why you guys are beating up the guy.

It's called the lemmings syndrome. It feels good to be part of a crowd,
it warms the soul to pat on each other's shoulders and last but not leat
it gives a sweet feeling to beat and kick an outsider, especially as
part of a group. Now if you can get all those positive feelings with a
single short post, then Usenet saves you a lot on psychiatrist fees.

Stefan

"Stefan" wrote in message
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Andrew Sarangan schrieb:

I am not sure why you guys are beating up the guy.

It's called the lemmings syndrome. It feels good to be part of a crowd, it
warms the soul to pat on each other's shoulders and last but not leat it
gives a sweet feeling to beat and kick an outsider, especially as part of
a group. Now if you can get all those positive feelings with a single
short post, then Usenet saves you a lot on psychiatrist fees.

Stefan

And if you think that any of this is possible in Usenet, you're the one who
needs therapy.

IMO, Usenet is the most egalitarian thing I've ever run accross or
participated in. You earn your stripes here. If you've been there and done
that, walked the walk, insert other hackneyed phrase here, etc, you'll
encounter nothing but respect, help and appreciation.

But, to come to this newsgroup, a newgroup devoted to the piloting of
aircraft and publicly announce that you:
- Have a disdain for flying (Aircraft are unsafe)
- Distrust the pilots (Only the idle rich can afford to fly)
- Consider GA to be comprised of nothing but "Tin Cans" and/or "Bug
Smashers"
- Have never even wanted to fly anything, anwhere at anytime (I can't afford
it...the medical requirements are too stringent...blah, blah, blah...)
- Consider Microsoft Flight Sim to be superior to real flying (Did you know
Baron's have ejection seats?)
- Are superior both in attitude and inteligence without any taste of the
previous 5 points (How can I trust the answers I'm being spoon fed? Or the
books they come from?)

Then guess what, you're going to be handed your hat and shown the door. And
if you happen to catch a great big size eight in the ass as you go..fine by
me.

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ USA

"Jay Beckman" wrote in
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Then guess what, you're going to be handed your hat and shown the
door. And if you happen to catch a great big size eight in the ass as
you go..fine by me.

Good to see you in here Jay :-) I was hoping you didn't drop off the radar
due to the mayhem of lete since I haven't seen you post of late.

We need a few size eights to reign in OUR group!

Allen

"A Lieberma" wrote in message
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in
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Then guess what, you're going to be handed your hat and shown the
door. And if you happen to catch a great big size eight in the ass as
you go..fine by me.

Good to see you in here Jay :-) I was hoping you didn't drop off the
radar
due to the mayhem of lete since I haven't seen you post of late.

We need a few size eights to reign in OUR group!

Allen

LOL...

Hi Allen...

I'm still here and at r.a.p. but I'm just so blown away by where this
tragicomedy is at that I find my fingers are speechless most of the time.

Jay B

"Jay Beckman" wrote in newsutbh.163$B42.153
@newsfe12.phx:

Hi Allen...

I'm still here and at r.a.p. but I'm just so blown away by where this
tragicomedy is at that I find my fingers are speechless most of the time.

LOL, takes serious self control Jay! You doing the right thing and sitting
back, but step in anytime!

What we need is a few of those size 8's banding together and kicking these
groups back in shape.

Allen

"Jay Beckman" wrote

I'm still here and at r.a.p. but I'm just so blown away by where this
tragicomedy is at that I find my fingers are speechless most of the time.

Great, to have you helping out. I'm taking a small, sort-of break. I'll jump
in again, if needed, I guess - but now, the situation is "trying" to be handled.

Thanks, to those of you being active in dealing with the problem.

To those of you that do not think there is a problem, re-read all of MX's posts.
It is easy to do, on most readers. Group his screen name together, then go at
it. Pay particular attention to how he replies to people giving advise. Think
respect, or lack there of.
--
Jim in NC

"Jay Beckman" wrote in
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- Consider GA to be comprised of nothing but "Tin Cans" and/or "Bug
Smashers"

You were right on with all but this one...

We all talk about ourselves as flying Tin Cans and Bug Smashers... It's
hypocritical to condemn someone else (even MX) for using the same language.

(OK - here comes the big controversy...)
It's the same type of hypocrisy that I believe exists among people who
complain about being called derogatory names, and then refer to each other
"jokingly" using the same bad words.

"Judah" wrote in message
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in
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- Consider GA to be comprised of nothing but "Tin Cans" and/or "Bug
Smashers"

You were right on with all but this one...

We all talk about ourselves as flying Tin Cans and Bug Smashers... It's
hypocritical to condemn someone else (even MX) for using the same
language.

(OK - here comes the big controversy...)
It's the same type of hypocrisy that I believe exists among people who
complain about being called derogatory names, and then refer to each other
"jokingly" using the same bad words.

The difference?

Our Albatross flies a desk...I actually FLY.

So thankyouverymuch but I'll refer to light GA aircraft in whatever terms I
choose and I don't give a tinkers damn if I come off sounding high and
mighty.

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

"Jay Beckman" wrote in
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(OK - here comes the big controversy...)
It's the same type of hypocrisy that I believe exists among people who
complain about being called derogatory names, and then refer to each
other "jokingly" using the same bad words.

The difference?

Our Albatross flies a desk...I actually FLY.

Irrelevant to my point. If I walk around calling myself a "dirty cheap
kike", would you call me a hypocrite if I then got offended when you call
me a "dirty cheap kike"?



So thankyouverymuch but I'll refer to light GA aircraft in whatever
terms I choose and I don't give a tinkers damn if I come off sounding
high and mighty.

Yourwelcomeverymuch. You go ahead and refer to light GA aircraft in
whatever terms you want. But then don't be surprised when an outsider uses
the same language. But if that language offends you, then you shouldn't
have used it yourself.

It has nothing to do with high and mighty.

Anyway, it's a big beef of mine (especially the "N word"), and I've said my
peace. So I'll shut up about it now to prevent another MX thread from
evolving into prosperity.

"Judah" wrote in message
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in
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(OK - here comes the big controversy...)
It's the same type of hypocrisy that I believe exists among people who
complain about being called derogatory names, and then refer to each
other "jokingly" using the same bad words.

The difference?

Our Albatross flies a desk...I actually FLY.

Irrelevant to my point. If I walk around calling myself a "dirty cheap
kike", would you call me a hypocrite if I then got offended when you call
me a "dirty cheap kike"?

Is it true? Are you? In the end it doesn't matter what I think. I'm not a
part of the "user group" so that means my opinion means nothing on the
subject. Same thing applies to Mx and flying.

So thankyouverymuch but I'll refer to light GA aircraft in whatever
terms I choose and I don't give a tinkers damn if I come off sounding
high and mighty.

Yourwelcomeverymuch. You go ahead and refer to light GA aircraft in
whatever terms you want. But then don't be surprised when an outsider uses
the same language. But if that language offends you, then you shouldn't
have used it yourself.

See my point above. If you aren't experienced with the subject, you
shouldn't be casting aspersions at all.


It has nothing to do with high and mighty.


Apparently this is problem #1 for some. We pilots are being haughty and
unwilling to help someone who is trying to drink from the fountain of
knowledge. Well bull****. Have you seen the Albatross' website? He's
obviously not stupid, not ignorant and in fact, some of his photography is
pretty damn good. So I'd say he's perfectly capable of devining official
information from reliable sources. So given the established fact that he
has no desire to ever fly, why come here to ask the questions? Someone else
hit the nail on the head: He knows just which questions to ask to spark
debate. Not subjects that are cut and dried/black and white. Practically
all are on what in the sports world would be referred to as "Judgement
Calls."

Anyway, it's a big beef of mine (especially the "N word")

I assume you mean Black-on-Black use of the "N" word? Do you know what it
means when one African-American calls another by the "N" word? Having grown
up in Detroit, Michigan (making me a part of the user group, trust me), I
can give you a clue: It isn't a racial thing...

and I've said my peace. So I'll shut up about it now to prevent another MX
thread from evolving into prosperity.

Best of Luck,

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ