Posting pictures on this group

This is considered by most a text-only group. Many folks post to
alt.binaries.pictures.aviation and let people know with a post to this
group.

That said, I wonder if feelings will change with the increasing
popularity of broadband connections. As long as this does not start
filling with SPAM, I personally would not mind a few aviation-related
pics from time to time.

Marco

Cody Dawg wrote:
Is picture posting not permitted on this group as I would like to post some
pictures I took from a recent flight down the Hudson Corridor (pre-Lidle)?

In a previous article, "Marco Leon" said:
That said, I wonder if feelings will change with the increasing
popularity of broadband connections. As long as this does not start
filling with SPAM, I personally would not mind a few aviation-related
pics from time to time.

Speaking as a news administrator with 20 years experience, I say broadband
has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's server space, and you let in
one binary and soon the group will be nothing but pictures, and then I'll
have to boot it from my servers.


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A: Seemed logical -- I didn't have any real intelligence.

"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...

Speaking as a news administrator with 20 years experience, I say broadband
has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's server space, and you let in
one binary and soon the group will be nothing but pictures, and then I'll
have to boot it from my servers.

You too, eh?

The network provider I worked for had to outsource its newsfeed in about
1999 because it couldn't keep up with the server load associated with binary
usenet posts. Most of it was porn, (which, strangely, almost all sourced
from Salt Lake City.)

-c

("Marco Leon" wrote)
Is picture posting not permitted on this group as I would like to post
some pictures I took from a recent flight down the Hudson Corridor
(pre-Lidle)?

I personally would not mind a few aviation-related pics from time to time.


http://new.photos.yahoo.com/landof10klakes/albums
For the OP, dump them into Yahoo.photo ...like these aviation-related pics.

It's easy to use. It's FREE. It's fast. Best of all ...it's linkable.


Montblack

That said, I wonder if feelings will change with the increasing
popularity of broadband connections.

No, they won't change. Besides being huge (with consequences beyond
connection speed), classification and segregation of topics is a Good
Thing. It helps readers find what they want, and ignore what they don't
want.

Jose
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what they are." - (mike).
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"Marco Leon" wrote in message
ups.com...
This is considered by most a text-only group. Many folks post to
alt.binaries.pictures.aviation and let people know with a post to this
group.

That said, I wonder if feelings will change with the increasing
popularity of broadband connections. As long as this does not start
filling with SPAM, I personally would not mind a few aviation-related
pics from time to time.

Marco


It's not so much the broadband connection that come into play with this
issue, though it is part of it. The main thing is the news servers desire to
reduce storage on their servers. There are lots of USENET servers that don't
even have the binary newsgroups because of the amount of storage required.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

It's not so much the broadband connection that come into play with this
issue, though it is part of it. The main thing is the news servers desire to
reduce storage on their servers. There are lots of USENET servers that don't
even have the binary newsgroups because of the amount of storage required.

Well, OK, then if not broadband, then the increasing availability of
cheaper storage. Regardless, I don't think a non-binary titled
newsgroup will ever reach a critical mass of images being uploaded to
cause an issue (especially given the relatively low volume of messages
this group gets).

The volume of posts that the flight simmer wannabe/troll would probably
exceed the minimal size a few images take up.

But you know what? It ain't worth arguing because it's not a big issue
for me.

Marco

"Marco Leon" wrote in message
oups.com...
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

It's not so much the broadband connection that come into play with this
issue, though it is part of it. The main thing is the news servers desire
to
reduce storage on their servers. There are lots of USENET servers that
don't
even have the binary newsgroups because of the amount of storage
required.

Well, OK, then if not broadband, then the increasing availability of
cheaper storage. Regardless, I don't think a non-binary titled
newsgroup will ever reach a critical mass of images being uploaded to
cause an issue (especially given the relatively low volume of messages
this group gets).

The volume of posts that the flight simmer wannabe/troll would probably
exceed the minimal size a few images take up.

But you know what? It ain't worth arguing because it's not a big issue
for me.

Marco


The cost of storage has dropped but the amount of volume on USENET has
increased just as fast if not faster. Binaries are one reason for this
increase. Below are the DAILY volumes on USENET and the source of the info.

4.5 GB 1996-12 Altopia.com
9 GB 1997-07 Altopia.com
12 GB 1998-01 Altopia.com
26 GB 1999-01 Altopia.com
82 GB 2000-01 Altopia.com
181 GB 2001-01 Altopia.com
257 GB 2002-01 Altopia.com
492 GB 2003-01 Altopia.com
969 GB 2004-01 Altopia.com
1.30 TB 2004-09-30 Octanews.net
1.27 TB 2004-11-30 Octanews.net
1.38 TB 2004-12-31 Octanews.net
1.34 TB 2005-01-01 Octanews.net
1.30 TB 2005-01-01 Newsreader.com
1.67 TB 2005-01-31 Octanews.net
1.63 TB 2005-02-01 Newsreader.com
1.81 TB 2005-02-28 Octanews.net
1.87 TB 2005-03-08 Newsreader.com
2.00 TB 2005-03-11 Various sources

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
The cost of storage has dropped but the amount of volume on USENET has
increased just as fast if not faster. Binaries are one reason for this
increase. Below are the DAILY volumes on USENET and the source of the info.

4.5 GB 1996-12 Altopia.com
9 GB 1997-07 Altopia.com
12 GB 1998-01 Altopia.com
26 GB 1999-01 Altopia.com
82 GB 2000-01 Altopia.com
181 GB 2001-01 Altopia.com
257 GB 2002-01 Altopia.com
492 GB 2003-01 Altopia.com
969 GB 2004-01 Altopia.com
1.30 TB 2004-09-30 Octanews.net
1.27 TB 2004-11-30 Octanews.net
1.38 TB 2004-12-31 Octanews.net
1.34 TB 2005-01-01 Octanews.net
1.30 TB 2005-01-01 Newsreader.com
1.67 TB 2005-01-31 Octanews.net
1.63 TB 2005-02-01 Newsreader.com
1.81 TB 2005-02-28 Octanews.net
1.87 TB 2005-03-08 Newsreader.com
2.00 TB 2005-03-11 Various sources

Yeah, but you need to qualify "binaries." You know very well the
volume is more due to DVD and music posts rather than pictures. Good
research though.

"Marco Leon" wrote in message
ups.com...
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
The cost of storage has dropped but the amount of volume on USENET has
increased just as fast if not faster. Binaries are one reason for this
increase. Below are the DAILY volumes on USENET and the source of the
info.

4.5 GB 1996-12 Altopia.com
9 GB 1997-07 Altopia.com
12 GB 1998-01 Altopia.com
26 GB 1999-01 Altopia.com
82 GB 2000-01 Altopia.com
181 GB 2001-01 Altopia.com
257 GB 2002-01 Altopia.com
492 GB 2003-01 Altopia.com
969 GB 2004-01 Altopia.com
1.30 TB 2004-09-30 Octanews.net
1.27 TB 2004-11-30 Octanews.net
1.38 TB 2004-12-31 Octanews.net
1.34 TB 2005-01-01 Octanews.net
1.30 TB 2005-01-01 Newsreader.com
1.67 TB 2005-01-31 Octanews.net
1.63 TB 2005-02-01 Newsreader.com
1.81 TB 2005-02-28 Octanews.net
1.87 TB 2005-03-08 Newsreader.com
2.00 TB 2005-03-11 Various sources

Yeah, but you need to qualify "binaries." You know very well the
volume is more due to DVD and music posts rather than pictures. Good
research though.


Of cause it is that doesn't change the fact that the newsgroup server
providers still have to more space to have binaries and virtually all of
them have decided against allowing binary data in the "text" newsgroups. DO
you expect them to check each file and see if it a picture of my airplane or
a copy of "Top Gun"?

Plus with the number of free website and photo upload places it just doesn't
make since to have to have the photo of my airplane stored on each and every
news server when I can upload it to a web site and post a link.