Air taxi vs. Charter or Part 135

Capt.Doug wrote:

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The 'T' signifies that the flight is a commercial operator. Prior to
Sept. 11, few pilots bothered to read the AIM to know this. Immediately
following Sept. 11, it was mandatory. Now it is optional, but ATC will
handle the commercial operator with confidence knowing the flight is
flown by professionals.
*****


Capt. D is exactly right on the resurrection of the Tango prefix post
9-11. We still see it regularly, but I'd estimate that fewer than 5%
of qualifying flights use it.

In my experience, a pilot using the Tango prefix doesn't warrant any
special consideration or presumption of a higher level of skill. Most
of my colleagues are vaguely familiar with the use of the prefix, at
best. Many pilots filing it don't even use it when identifying
themselves on the radio. It is generally irrelevant to ATC.


Chad Speer
PP-ASEL, IA
ATCS, Kansas City ARTCC

When the controllers went of strike 25 years ago, the Tango
November go you an IFR clearance. But Lifeguard is even
better.



"Chad Speer" wrote in message
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| Capt.Doug wrote:
|
| *****
| The 'T' signifies that the flight is a commercial
operator. Prior to
| Sept. 11, few pilots bothered to read the AIM to know
this. Immediately
| following Sept. 11, it was mandatory. Now it is optional,
but ATC will
| handle the commercial operator with confidence knowing the
flight is
| flown by professionals.
| *****
|
|
| Capt. D is exactly right on the resurrection of the Tango
prefix post
| 9-11. We still see it regularly, but I'd estimate that
fewer than 5%
| of qualifying flights use it.
|
| In my experience, a pilot using the Tango prefix doesn't
warrant any
| special consideration or presumption of a higher level of
skill. Most
| of my colleagues are vaguely familiar with the use of the
prefix, at
| best. Many pilots filing it don't even use it when
identifying
| themselves on the radio. It is generally irrelevant to
ATC.
|
|
| Chad Speer
| PP-ASEL, IA
| ATCS, Kansas City ARTCC
|

"Chad Speer" wrote in message
oups.com...
| Capt.Doug wrote:
|
| *****
| The 'T' signifies that the flight is a commercial
operator.


It signifies the flight is not Part 91. It says nothing about the operator.




Prior to
| Sept. 11, few pilots bothered to read the AIM to know
this. Immediately
| following Sept. 11, it was mandatory. Now it is optional,
but ATC will
| handle the commercial operator with confidence knowing the
flight is
| flown by professionals.

Using the T indicates no such thing with ATC. Any kid with a couple
hundred hours could be the pilot. He would be a professional in name only.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

According to the AIM...

Pilots operating under provisions of 14 CFR Part 135 and not having an FAA
assigned 3-letter designator, are urged to prefix the normal registration
(N) number with the letter "T" on flight plan filing; e.g., TN1234B.

But lots of folks never do it.



There was a time right after the controller strike that the FAA
gave preference to airlines and 135 operators. People heavily
used TANGO-NOVEMBER to make sure they got their precedence.

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
...
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

According to the AIM...

Pilots operating under provisions of 14 CFR Part 135 and not having an
FAA assigned 3-letter designator, are urged to prefix the normal
registration (N) number with the letter "T" on flight plan filing; e.g.,
TN1234B.

But lots of folks never do it.



There was a time right after the controller strike that the FAA
gave preference to airlines and 135 operators. People heavily
used TANGO-NOVEMBER to make sure they got their precedence.

We don't call out the NOVEMBER when we call out on the radio. So I have a
question. Is Tango-November said when using the prefix or is it just a
flight plan thing?

Ron Natalie wrote:
Pilots operating under provisions of 14 CFR Part 135 and not having an FAA
assigned 3-letter designator, are urged to prefix the normal registration
(N) number with the letter "T" on flight plan filing; e.g., TN1234B.

But lots of folks never do it.

There was a time right after the controller strike that the FAA
gave preference to airlines and 135 operators. People heavily
used TANGO-NOVEMBER to make sure they got their precedence.


I must not have gotten the memo. What I do remember about the period was while
the controllers could be sarcastic and surly shortly before the strike, they
sure became friendly and cooperative afterwards.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:


We don't call out the NOVEMBER when we call out on the radio. So I have a
question. Is Tango-November said when using the prefix or is it just a
flight plan thing?

In any situation where you would use November you add the Tango in front
of it. If you don't then you don't.

I must not have gotten the memo. What I do remember about the period was
while
the controllers could be sarcastic and surly shortly before the strike,
they
sure became friendly and cooperative afterwards.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com


I was flying as a student pilot during that period, and what I remember most
was that all of the controllers who were inpatient and abrasive suddenly
vanished and that all of the controllers who were friendly and helpfull were
still present.

Peter

Peter Dohm wrote:
I was flying as a student pilot during that period, and what I remember most
was that all of the controllers who were inpatient and abrasive suddenly
vanished and that all of the controllers who were friendly and helpfull were
still present.



Reagan broke the controller union's back.... he fired the strikers and never
rehired them. They're gone. Frankly, I don't miss them. The replacements were
much better.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

yes, much nicer flying after the strike.



"Peter Dohm" wrote in message
...
|
|
| I must not have gotten the memo. What I do remember
about the period was
| while
| the controllers could be sarcastic and surly shortly
before the strike,
| they
| sure became friendly and cooperative afterwards.
|
|
|
| --
| Mortimer Schnerd, RN
| mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com
|
|
| I was flying as a student pilot during that period, and
what I remember most
| was that all of the controllers who were inpatient and
abrasive suddenly
| vanished and that all of the controllers who were friendly
and helpfull were
| still present.
|
| Peter
|
|