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Chad Speer wrote:
***** AIM 5-4-21(g) "Missed approach obstacle clearance is predicated on beginning the missed approach procedure at the MAP from MDA or DA and then climbing 200 feet/NM or greater. Initiating a go-around after passing the published MAP may result in total loss of obstacle clearance. To compensate for the possibility of reduced obstacle clearance during a go-around, a pilot should apply procedures used in takeoff planning. Pilots should refer to airport obstacle and departure data prior to initiating an instrument approach procedure." ***** I don't think this advises against the use of a missed approach procedure, it just explains that there is reduced obstacle clearance if you are beyond the MAP or below the MDA/DH and the pilot should consider that and become familiar with the obstacles. Yeah, I agree - it all depends on the situation. The same section of the AIM (5-4-21(c)) indicates that at the minimum circling altitude, the missed approach can be initiated from anywhere within the circling approach area - so obviously if you are able to make it back up to the minimum circling altitude within the circling approach area it will be safe to execute the missed. But as has been pointed out there are definitely airports from which it is not possible to execute the missed approach from below the DH. During my instrument training we would often do a touch and go before flying the missed approach in order to log cross country time. - Ray |
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Ray wrote:
Chad Speer wrote: ***** AIM 5-4-21(g) "Missed approach obstacle clearance is predicated on beginning the missed approach procedure at the MAP from MDA or DA and then climbing 200 feet/NM or greater. Initiating a go-around after passing the published MAP may result in total loss of obstacle clearance. To compensate for the possibility of reduced obstacle clearance during a go-around, a pilot should apply procedures used in takeoff planning. Pilots should refer to airport obstacle and departure data prior to initiating an instrument approach procedure." ***** I don't think this advises against the use of a missed approach procedure, it just explains that there is reduced obstacle clearance if you are beyond the MAP or below the MDA/DH and the pilot should consider that and become familiar with the obstacles. Yeah, I agree - it all depends on the situation. The same section of the AIM (5-4-21(c)) indicates that at the minimum circling altitude, the missed approach can be initiated from anywhere within the circling approach area - so obviously if you are able to make it back up to the minimum circling altitude within the circling approach area it will be safe to execute the missed. But as has been pointed out there are definitely airports from which it is not possible to execute the missed approach from below the DH. During my instrument training we would often do a touch and go before flying the missed approach in order to log cross country time. - Ray The language about missing out of a circle-to-land is providing some measure of guidance but does not imply that there is critera protecting such a maneuver. If the missed approach point is at the runway or over the airport (true most, but not all cases) the circle-to-land abort should work. But, you are at MDA, not way below it in the case of high HATs (or HAA in the case of circling). The missed approach evaluation starts climbing at the MAP for non-precision IAPs. There is no exception. |
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