New NavAir Changes

wrote:
Per OPNAVINST 5030.4F, Enclosure (1), Para 3.b: "...The insignia used
by the [deactivated] squadron is also retired and remains with the
history of that deactivated squadron. A newly established or
redesignated squadron cannot adopt the insignia of a deactivated unit."
I would think this would satisfy any concerns the VF-111 "Sundowners"
alumni have about the possibility of VFC-111 using their insignia.

It should be pointed out that VFC-111 is calling _itself_ the
"Sundowners" and using the old patch ...

Not aware that the patch worn by the new skipper is authorized and
what, if anything, is in the pipeline for patch/nickname approval.

There's two basic issues, the re-issuing of the number 111 and the new
outfit using a patch/nickname that had a long history, and attempting
to hitch a ride on that history.

On 7 Dec 2006 07:51:28 -0800, "Mike Weeks" wrote:


wrote:
Per OPNAVINST 5030.4F, Enclosure (1), Para 3.b: "...The insignia used
by the [deactivated] squadron is also retired and remains with the
history of that deactivated squadron. A newly established or
redesignated squadron cannot adopt the insignia of a deactivated unit."
I would think this would satisfy any concerns the VF-111 "Sundowners"
alumni have about the possibility of VFC-111 using their insignia.

It should be pointed out that VFC-111 is calling _itself_ the
"Sundowners" and using the old patch ...

Not aware that the patch worn by the new skipper is authorized and
what, if anything, is in the pipeline for patch/nickname approval.

There's two basic issues, the re-issuing of the number 111 and the new
outfit using a patch/nickname that had a long history, and attempting
to hitch a ride on that history.

IMO there's a difference between "hitching a ride on history" and
wearing the emblem of a unit with a long and honorable history, as a
tribute to and extension of that history.

While YMMV I don't see this as a Big Deal.


Bill Kambic
Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN
Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão