Lessons learned from the Oregon tragedy

On 12/9/06 6:58 AM, in article , "kontiki"
wrote:

Montblack wrote:
("john smith" wrote)

Mr Kim's death resulting from his decision to attempt to walk out of an
area he was unfamiliar with after becoming stranded, raises some thought
provoking questions for aviators.



One of his problems was thinking he was 'here,' when in fact he was
...there.

Many of his subsequent decisions were based on that first wrong premise.

perhaps something as simple as a hand held GPS could have saved him. Or,
even a hand held radio.

Most pilots carry these items with them as a matter of course.

You're the first person besides myself to mention this. The guy was a tech
geek, with not even a cheap, handheld GPS, let alone one with street maps?
My Lowrance 2000c in driving mode was much more informative than our paper
map during our last vacation.
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But how did he end up in the river?

For sure, I'd have walked down the road.

Karl

karl gruber wrote:

But how did he end up in the river?

Looking for a drink?


For sure, I'd have walked down the road.

Until you became delirious from hypothermia... At that point, you don't
know what you might do.


Matt

A fall down a hill into the river?



"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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| karl gruber wrote:
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| But how did he end up in the river?
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| Looking for a drink?
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| For sure, I'd have walked down the road.
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| Until you became delirious from hypothermia... At that
point, you don't
| know what you might do.
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| Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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For sure, I'd have walked down the road.

Until you became delirious from hypothermia... At that point, you don't
know what you might do.

Search and rescue crews mentioned the hypothermic paradox where, when people
start really losing it to the cold, they paradoxically start shedding their
clothing...

-c

On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 19:41:10 -0800, in ,
karl gruber wrote:
But how did he end up in the river?

Maybe he figured that following the water would be the smoothest
course... At the very least, it guarantees that you are decreasing in
altitude... Unless the waterway goes underground, eventually he would end
up on the coast at the very worst... Maybe he figured that he would find
one of the camps along the river where the kayakers put in at...

For sure, I'd have walked down the road.

The problem was, he was definitely lost... At that point, he probably
wasn't sure which way would get him out of there... Yeah, maybe going back
the way he came would have helped for a bit, but soon he would be at yet
another logging road intersection and he might not know where to go from
there... He screwed up... Darwin didn't quite win since he at least had a
chance to pass on his genes...

karl gruber wrote:
But how did he end up in the river?

It could've simply been covered over and he fell in.

But some reports said that tracks showed a bear might've chased him
into the river.

Kev