IFR Cancellation Question

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
oups.com:

http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...ations/atpubs/
ATC/Chp7/atc0702.html

http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...ations/atpubs/
ATC/Chp7/atc0704.html

Thank you....

Sheez, this was like extracting a tooth.... Would have been nice for you to
say hey Allen, check out yada yada yada to correct the error of my ways.

Allen

A Lieberma wrote:

Thank you....


You're welcome.



Sheez, this was like extracting a tooth....


I know the feeling well.



Would have been nice for you to
say hey Allen, check out yada yada yada to correct the error of my ways.


Why wasn't my word good enough?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
oups.com:

Why wasn't my word good enough?

I live by the words, trust but verify.....

Allen

A Lieberma wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
oups.com:

Why wasn't my word good enough?

I live by the words, trust but verify.....


Is that a recently acquired trait? Three days ago you wrote:

"If it's an IFR plane in front of you, you won't be cleared for the
visual to an UNcontrolled airport until that plane cancels his IFR. An
uncontrolled airport is literally shut down for IFR arrivals until that
IFR cancellation is received by the plane in front of you."

But that's not true, so it would appear you took somebody's word
without verification.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
ps.com:

Is that a recently acquired trait? Three days ago you wrote:

"If it's an IFR plane in front of you, you won't be cleared for the
visual to an UNcontrolled airport until that plane cancels his IFR. An
uncontrolled airport is literally shut down for IFR arrivals until that
IFR cancellation is received by the plane in front of you."

But that's not true, so it would appear you took somebody's word
without verification.

This was based on MY eperiences, quite frankly spelled out in another post.

I never said that somebody told me the above.

Allen

A Lieberma wrote:

This was based on MY eperiences, quite frankly spelled out in another post.

I never said that somebody told me the above.


I must have missed that post. In the message where you declared a
visual approach shuts down an uncontrolled field until the aircraft
cancels IFR you spoke of an unrelated experience when you arrived in
IMC. So what was the experience that led to your erroneous conclusion?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
ps.com:

A Lieberma wrote:

This was based on MY eperiences, quite frankly spelled out in another
post.

I never said that somebody told me the above.


I must have missed that post. In the message where you declared a
visual approach shuts down an uncontrolled field until the aircraft
cancels IFR you spoke of an unrelated experience when you arrived in
IMC. So what was the experience that led to your erroneous
conclusion?

It was probably my mixing apples with oranges, thinking that the IMC
approaches where I couldn't get a SVFR clearance back to MBO (2 times I
tried this) so I could do a visual approach.

Controller said he was unable because the preceding traffic did not cancel
IFR.

Allen