HUD view of a near-miss

"Ross Richardson" wrote...

I was once flying over Lake Texoma in North Central Texas at 2500'
( ground elevation is ~ 750') and 3 C-130s went UNDER me. That was
interesting.

I was coasting in (south TX, late 70s) on a published low-level route where
it crossed another one. I was in an A-4 at 500' or so, and a B-52 passed
under me.

There also used to be a segment of another route in NV (early 90s) where 2
routes ran in opposite directions. They were supposed to be deconflicted by
the controlling agency, but it didn't always work. I was in an A-6 at 200'
and passed under 1 A-10 going the other way (really -- they weren't JUST
slow!) and abeam his wingman.

In rec.aviation.owning John Weiss wrote:

I was coasting in (south TX, late 70s) on a published low-level route where
it crossed another one. I was in an A-4 at 500' or so, and a B-52 passed
under me.

Since we are telling war stories here...

A friend of mine flew A-6s in several Red Flag exercises. He has several such near
miss stories. I think the best was when he was running along at about 500' agl
when he had a F-16 (F-15?) overtake him from below and then immediately pull up in
an immelmann turn in front of him.

During the de-briefing, the other pilot was asked about this maneuver and why he
did it. Basically, he was focused on what he was doing and never saw the A-6,
before, during, or after his turn.


--
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR

"Frank Stutzman" wrote...

A friend of mine flew A-6s in several Red Flag exercises. He has several
such near
miss stories. I think the best was when he was running along at about
500' agl
when he had a F-16 (F-15?) overtake him from below and then immediately
pull up in
an immelmann turn in front of him.

During the de-briefing, the other pilot was asked about this maneuver and
why he
did it. Basically, he was focused on what he was doing and never saw the
A-6,
before, during, or after his turn.

Fat chance! It sounds like a well-known "maneuver" known as "thumping"!

Also, I don't think I've ever seen anyone fly lower in exercises like that
than the Brits flying Buccaneers for the Oman AF (mid 80s). They would
regularly fly under our A-6s that were ingressing at 200' or less...

John Weiss wrote:
"Frank Stutzman" wrote...
A friend of mine flew A-6s in several Red Flag exercises. He has several
such near
miss stories. I think the best was when he was running along at about
500' agl
when he had a F-16 (F-15?) overtake him from below and then immediately
pull up in
an immelmann turn in front of him.

During the de-briefing, the other pilot was asked about this maneuver and
why he
did it. Basically, he was focused on what he was doing and never saw the
A-6,
before, during, or after his turn.

Fat chance! It sounds like a well-known "maneuver" known as "thumping"!

Also, I don't think I've ever seen anyone fly lower in exercises like that
than the Brits flying Buccaneers for the Oman AF (mid 80s). They would
regularly fly under our A-6s that were ingressing at 200' or less...



I'm sorry, I thought you knew . . .
50 feet is low level. Anything higher is
cruising-along-on-the-highway-on-a-Sunday-afternoon, aka asking to see
if Mr. FlAK is at home :-(