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Old December 13th 06, 03:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
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Default Anyone see the new video on Avweb???

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:47:06 -0600, "Montblack" wrote in
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("buttman" wrote)
Are there any planes out there that have two engine, but can't be flown on
one?


Research: P-38 Lightning


Corky Meyer:

"Where the aircraft really came into its own was in performing stalls. The
counter-rotating propellers kept the aircraft pointing straight ahead, so
there was no torque effect to require rudder input as the speed decreased.
Stalls demonstrated a good, early buffet warning, and no wing dropping
occurred at the stall, even with small, pilot-applied aileron and rudder
inputs to try to irritate its lateral and/or directional attitudes near
the stall. It was even more impressive to me when I performed single-
engine stalls with one engine either windmilling or feathered. With one of
the P-38's dual fins and rudders always in the slipstream of a live
engine, a stall could be performed with little or no wing drop. It was a
pilot's dream under the trying conditions of a single-engine approach and
landing."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3897/is_200307/ai_n9283659/pg_5

"The 5,000th Lightning built, a P-38J, was painted fire-engine red, and had
the name 'YIPPEE' painted on the underside of the wings in big letters.
This aircraft was used by Lockheed test pilots Milo Burcham and Tony
LeVier in remarkable flight demonstrations, performing such stunts as slow
rolls at treetop level with one prop feathered to show that the P-38 was
not the unmanageable beast of legend. Their exploits did much to reassure
pilots that the Lightning might be a handful, but it was no 'widow maker.'"

http://www.vectorsite.net/avp38.html

Marty
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Old December 13th 06, 07:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Montblack
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Default Anyone see the new video on Avweb???

("Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote)
Are there any planes out there that have two engine, but can't be flown
on one?


Research: P-38 Lightning


With one of the P-38's dual fins and rudders always in the slipstream of a
live engine, a stall could be performed with little or no wing drop. It
was a pilot's dream under the trying conditions of a single-engine
approach andlanding."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3897/is_200307/ai_n9283659/pg_5

http://www.vectorsite.net/avp38.html



The "Critical Engine" problem ...(x)2 ...was mainly an issue on takeoffs. My
bad. I've been set straight, so to speak.

http://www.fighter-planes.com/info/p38_lightning.htm
[That would not be until later, however, and the new P-38 had other defects.
The most dangerous problem was that both engines were "critical"
engines-losing one on takeoff, which happened often, created "critical
torque," rolling the plane towards the live engine's wingtip, rather than
the dead engine's. Normal reflex in pilots flying twin engine aircraft would
be to push the remaining engine to full throttle when they lost an engine on
takeoff, but in the P-38, the resulting critical torque would produce such
an uncontrollable level of asymmetric roll that the aircraft would flip over
and slam upside-down into the ground. Eventually, procedures were devised to
allow a pilot to deal with the situation by reducing power on the running
engine, feathering the prop on the dead engine, and then increasing power
gradually until the aircraft was in stable flight.]


Montblack


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Old December 13th 06, 12:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y[_2_]
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Default Anyone see the new video on Avweb???

Montblack wrote:

The "Critical Engine" problem ...(x)2 ...was mainly an issue on takeoffs. My
bad. I've been set straight, so to speak.


Didn't a P-38 engine-out kill Jeff Ethels, the aviation writer who flew
just about everything from Fokker Triplanes to Mig 29's?
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Old December 13th 06, 04:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
karl gruber[_1_]
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I think he ran it out of gas.

Karl
"B A R R Y" wrote in message
. net...
Montblack wrote:

The "Critical Engine" problem ...(x)2 ...was mainly an issue on takeoffs.
My bad. I've been set straight, so to speak.


Didn't a P-38 engine-out kill Jeff Ethels, the aviation writer who flew
just about everything from Fokker Triplanes to Mig 29's?



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Old December 13th 06, 04:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Default Anyone see the new video on Avweb???

Karl,

off topic, I know, but did you ever manage to find out details about
that thing your mechanic installed to adjust the Davtron temp probe?

Thanks!

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Old December 13th 06, 06:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
karl gruber[_1_]
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Default Anyone see the new video on Avweb???

Sorry Thomas,

I just plane forgot last time I was out there. We've been having storm after
storm through here the last two weeks. I have other multiple excesses upon
demand. I'll get out there with the camera soon.

Best,
Karl
"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Karl,

off topic, I know, but did you ever manage to find out details about
that thing your mechanic installed to adjust the Davtron temp probe?

Thanks!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)



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Old December 14th 06, 08:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Default Anyone see the new video on Avweb???

Karl,

I'll get out there with the camera soon.


Thanks! Much appreciated.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

 




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