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Old June 21st 04, 08:57 PM
Juan Jimenez
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in
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What does the price of a plane have to do with its airworthiness?


Maybe the fact that price is usually a measure of "suitability for a
purpose"?


Really? On what planet, Tom?

When did the FAA include price of the airplane in its definition of
airworthiness?


It doesn't, "economic reality" does.


Boy, you sure have an active imagination. Of course, this only applies to
the resale price of an airplane, doesn't it? It doesn't apply to the
acquisition price, because then, according to your rules, anything goes,
doesn't it? Capitalistic airworthiness at its best?

(Geez...you should have learned this before entering elementary school)


I missed Dumb Rationalizations 101. On purpose.

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Old June 21st 04, 09:20 PM
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 19:57:37 +0000, Juan Jimenez wrote:

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in
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What does the price of a plane have to do with its airworthiness?


Maybe the fact that price is usually a measure of "suitability for a
purpose"?


Really? On what planet, Tom?


Ya, I had this same thought. Price rarely is a measure of suitability for
a purpose. I agree with ya. In fact, suitability, quality, price, and
popularity often have little to do with each other.

When did the FAA include price of the airplane in its definition of
airworthiness?


It doesn't, "economic reality" does.


Boy, you sure have an active imagination. Of course, this only applies to
the resale price of an airplane, doesn't it? It doesn't apply to the
acquisition price, because then, according to your rules, anything goes,
doesn't it? Capitalistic airworthiness at its best?


I know. It's kind of funny. Accordingly, if we run with his logic, there
are never deals to be had in aviation. In fact, we can ignore every
social issue which affects mankind such as money problems, loss of
interest, medical problems, or desire to rapidly acquire another
possession. Nope, paying absoluete top dollar is the only way to aquire
anything of worth. I wonder if he purchased anything other than new, and
paid above sticker to boot? If he did, he clearly got ripped off.

Just having some fun with the obvious, which was seemingly overlooked
in the grandparent message.


Cheers,

Greg


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Old June 21st 04, 11:35 PM
Juan Jimenez
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Greg Copeland wrote in
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 19:57:37 +0000, Juan Jimenez wrote:

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in
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What does the price of a plane have to do with its airworthiness?

Maybe the fact that price is usually a measure of "suitability for a
purpose"?


Really? On what planet, Tom?


Ya, I had this same thought. Price rarely is a measure of suitability
for a purpose. I agree with ya. In fact, suitability, quality,
price, and popularity often have little to do with each other.

When did the FAA include price of the airplane in its definition of
airworthiness?

It doesn't, "economic reality" does.


Boy, you sure have an active imagination. Of course, this only
applies to the resale price of an airplane, doesn't it? It doesn't
apply to the acquisition price, because then, according to your
rules, anything goes, doesn't it? Capitalistic airworthiness at its
best?


I know. It's kind of funny. Accordingly, if we run with his logic,
there are never deals to be had in aviation. In fact, we can ignore
every social issue which affects mankind such as money problems, loss
of interest, medical problems, or desire to rapidly acquire another
possession. Nope, paying absoluete top dollar is the only way to
aquire anything of worth. I wonder if he purchased anything other than
new, and paid above sticker to boot? If he did, he clearly got ripped
off.

Just having some fun with the obvious, which was seemingly overlooked
in the grandparent message.


Cheers,

Greg


No reply needed. Well put.


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Old June 22nd 04, 12:28 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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Greg Copeland wrote in
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Just having some fun with the obvious, which was seemingly overlooked
in the grandparent message.


Cheers,

Greg


No reply needed. Well put.


Well put bull ****.

No wonder you get taken.


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Old June 23rd 04, 06:12 PM
Juan Jimenez
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in news:PaKBc.100$wd7.41167
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Well put bull ****.

No wonder you get taken.


I got taken to a very nice restaurant this weekend. Your taste in food is
not something I share.

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Old June 22nd 04, 12:27 AM
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"Greg Copeland" wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 19:57:37 +0000, Juan Jimenez wrote:

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in
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What does the price of a plane have to do with its airworthiness?

Maybe the fact that price is usually a measure of "suitability for a
purpose"?


Really? On what planet, Tom?


This one. What planets version of "value" (which determines price) are YOU
using? Kalifornia's?

Ya, I had this same thought. Price rarely is a measure of suitability for
a purpose. I agree with ya. In fact, suitability, quality, price, and
popularity often have little to do with each other.


Really? On what planet?


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Old June 22nd 04, 04:47 AM
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 16:27:51 -0700, Tom Sixkiller wrote:
GC said:
Ya, I had this same thought. Price rarely is a measure of suitability
for a purpose. I agree with ya. In fact, suitability, quality, price,
and popularity often have little to do with each other.


Really? On what planet?


LOL. This one. Stay with the conversation, please. I'm laughing and
teasing a little because I'm trying to figure out if you're for real or
not. If you seriously believe what you're implying, you seriously have,
"sucker", written all over you. You seriously believe that top dollar
always buys best suitability for everything, every time? If so, I have a
$900 plastic tub liner and a $600 hammer to sale you. I'll be happy to
ship as soon as I receive your check, and it clears. I'm more than happy
to sale as many as you'd like to purchase. Seriously. This is no joke.

Is the phrase, "common sense", nothing more than a cliche to you?

Cheers,

Greg

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Old June 22nd 04, 06:24 AM
Greg Copeland
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 22:47:04 -0500, Greg Copeland wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 16:27:51 -0700, Tom Sixkiller wrote:
GC said:
Ya, I had this same thought. Price rarely is a measure of suitability
for a purpose. I agree with ya. In fact, suitability, quality, price,
and popularity often have little to do with each other.


Really? On what planet?


LOL. This one. Stay with the conversation, please. I'm laughing and
teasing a little because I'm trying to figure out if you're for real or
not. If you seriously believe what you're implying, you seriously have,
"sucker", written all over you. You seriously believe that top dollar
always buys best suitability for everything, every time? If so, I have a
$900 plastic tub liner and a $600 hammer to sale you. I'll be happy to
ship as soon as I receive your check, and it clears. I'm more than happy
to sale as many as you'd like to purchase. Seriously. This is no joke.

Is the phrase, "common sense", nothing more than a cliche to you?

Cheers,

Greg


Would you believe, "sell", even? Hate it when I do dumb stuff like that.

Oh well.


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Old June 22nd 04, 01:04 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Greg Copeland" wrote in message
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 22:47:04 -0500, Greg Copeland wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 16:27:51 -0700, Tom Sixkiller wrote:
GC said:
Ya, I had this same thought. Price rarely is a measure of suitability
for a purpose. I agree with ya. In fact, suitability, quality,

price,
and popularity often have little to do with each other.

Really? On what planet?


LOL. This one. Stay with the conversation, please. I'm laughing and
teasing a little because I'm trying to figure out if you're for real or
not. If you seriously believe what you're implying, you seriously have,
"sucker", written all over you. You seriously believe that top dollar
always buys best suitability for everything, every time? If so, I have

a
$900 plastic tub liner and a $600 hammer to sale you.


Ever buy something custom made?

If I really need a specific tub liner, and your's is all I have, it might be
worth $900.

Do you know WHY the military had to pay $600 for hammers and why they could
not get them at Ace Hardware.

I'll be happy to
ship as soon as I receive your check, and it clears. I'm more than happy
to sale as many as you'd like to purchase. Seriously. This is no joke.

Is the phrase, "common sense", nothing more than a cliche to you?


Evidently, terminology is foreign to you.

What does the term "price" mean to you (other than what TV advertising
says).


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Old June 23rd 04, 10:38 PM
Greg Copeland
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 05:04:14 -0700, Tom Sixkiller wrote:

Ever buy something custom made?


Yes, but it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. As it related to
the items I mentioned, none were custom items. In fact, IIRC, according
to the press, Congresional hearings, and military people which were
interviewed, nothing was custom about them. In fact, it was mentioned
many times that any hardware store could of provided the items at a proper
price.


If I really need a specific tub liner, and your's is all I have, it
might be worth $900.


Not when you can go to the store and get one for 1/10 the price.


Do you know WHY the military had to pay $600 for hammers and why they
could not get them at Ace Hardware.


According to everything I ever read about the subject, there never was a
single reason to support those prices, aside from simply attempting to
steal from Peter to pay Paul. Feel free to correct as needed

Evidently, terminology is foreign to you.


Doubtful.


What does the term "price" mean to you (other than what TV advertising
says).


Oh shesh. I shutter anytime I hear this. As if it actually answers
anything. You said, "Maybe the fact that price is usually a measure of
'suitability for a purpose'." The problem is, it isn't. Price is a
measure of what the market is willing to bare for an item and often has
nothing to do with suitability or quality. Such statements also blindly
ignore the human condition, which is blindly open to manipulation by
marketing and sheer stupidity or ignorance.

The reason I poked fun is because you seem to give the impression that the
more you pay for something, with no exception, will always be better than
anything for which you can pay less. In otherwords, if I take two
identical planes, and raise the price 10% on one, you gave me the
impression that you think the higher priced of the two is
automatically better.


Cheers,

Greg


 




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