IFR Cancellation Question

"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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Is there a reason why the pilot should not be on flight following once he
enters Class D airspace?


Yes, if he's not talking to the tower when he enters Class D airspace he's
busted FAR 91.129(c)(1).



The controller will hand you off to the tower when both are ready for you.


How does that work?



Telling the FF controller that you have the field in sight is just a
polite
way of letting the controller know that you're ready to be handed off to
the tower. It is not necessary. The FF controller will hand you off when
he and the tower controller are ready for you. If you want it sooner, just
ask: "XXX Approach, Cessna XXXX, Request frequency change to XXX tower",
or just terminate flight following.


As I recall the issue was why do some controllers tell VFR aircraft on
flight following to report the field in sight.

On 12/18/06 15:42, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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Is there a reason why the pilot should not be on flight following once he
enters Class D airspace?


Yes, if he's not talking to the tower when he enters Class D airspace he's
busted FAR 91.129(c)(1).

No, his communication requirements are met by maintaining communication
with the ATC facility providing flight following.




The controller will hand you off to the tower when both are ready for you.


How does that work?



Telling the FF controller that you have the field in sight is just a
polite
way of letting the controller know that you're ready to be handed off to
the tower. It is not necessary. The FF controller will hand you off when
he and the tower controller are ready for you. If you want it sooner, just
ask: "XXX Approach, Cessna XXXX, Request frequency change to XXX tower",
or just terminate flight following.


As I recall the issue was why do some controllers tell VFR aircraft on
flight following to report the field in sight.

I was responding to your question, which was:

When you're in any of that Class D airspace, do you feel you should be
talking to the tower or still on flight following?







--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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No, his communication requirements are met by maintaining communication
with the ATC facility providing flight following.


How is that done?

On 12/18/06 17:35, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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No, his communication requirements are met by maintaining communication
with the ATC facility providing flight following.


How is that done?



What do you mean "how is it done?" The pilot is in communication
with ATC, the reg says the pilot must be in communication with
ATC.


--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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What do you mean "how is it done?" The pilot is in communication
with ATC, the reg says the pilot must be in communication with
ATC.


Communication with any ATC facility satisfies the requirements of the reg?
Doesn't the reg specify communication with the ATC facility providing air
traffic services in that airspace?

On 12/18/06 18:21, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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What do you mean "how is it done?" The pilot is in communication
with ATC, the reg says the pilot must be in communication with
ATC.


Communication with any ATC facility satisfies the requirements of the reg?
Doesn't the reg specify communication with the ATC facility providing air
traffic services in that airspace?

Yes.

"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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On 12/18/06 18:21, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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What do you mean "how is it done?" The pilot is in communication
with ATC, the reg says the pilot must be in communication with
ATC.


Communication with any ATC facility satisfies the requirements of the
reg?
Doesn't the reg specify communication with the ATC facility providing air
traffic services in that airspace?


Yes.


Which question are you answering?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
k.net:


"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
...

What do you mean "how is it done?" The pilot is in communication
with ATC, the reg says the pilot must be in communication with
ATC.


Communication with any ATC facility satisfies the requirements of the
reg? Doesn't the reg specify communication with the ATC facility
providing air traffic services in that airspace?

You should know of all people Steven that it may not be necessary to talk
to class D tower if there is a letter of agreement between ATC components.

Just like Mark said, pilot is in communication with ATC.

I have been in HKS airspace many a times without talking to tower while
manuevering around downtown Jackson at 2000 feet. I have always been in
contact with JAN during these times and never switched over to HKS.

Allen

"A Lieberma" wrote in message
. 18...

You should know of all people Steven that it may not be necessary to talk
to class D tower if there is a letter of agreement between ATC components.

Just like Mark said, pilot is in communication with ATC.

I have been in HKS airspace many a times without talking to tower while
manuevering around downtown Jackson at 2000 feet. I have always been in
contact with JAN during these times and never switched over to HKS.


We're not talking about those kinds of flights. We're talking about a
flight that intends to land at a towered field at the center of Class D
airspace