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Old December 19th 06, 02:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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What do you mean "how is it done?" The pilot is in communication
with ATC, the reg says the pilot must be in communication with
ATC.


Communication with any ATC facility satisfies the requirements of the reg?
Doesn't the reg specify communication with the ATC facility providing air
traffic services in that airspace?


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Old December 19th 06, 02:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Mark Hansen
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On 12/18/06 18:21, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
...

What do you mean "how is it done?" The pilot is in communication
with ATC, the reg says the pilot must be in communication with
ATC.


Communication with any ATC facility satisfies the requirements of the reg?
Doesn't the reg specify communication with the ATC facility providing air
traffic services in that airspace?


Yes.
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Old December 19th 06, 02:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Steven P. McNicoll
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Default IFR Cancellation Question


"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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On 12/18/06 18:21, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
...

What do you mean "how is it done?" The pilot is in communication
with ATC, the reg says the pilot must be in communication with
ATC.


Communication with any ATC facility satisfies the requirements of the
reg?
Doesn't the reg specify communication with the ATC facility providing air
traffic services in that airspace?


Yes.


Which question are you answering?


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Old December 27th 06, 07:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Steven P. McNicoll
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Default IFR Cancellation Question


"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
k.net...

"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
...
On 12/18/06 18:21, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
...

What do you mean "how is it done?" The pilot is in communication
with ATC, the reg says the pilot must be in communication with
ATC.


Communication with any ATC facility satisfies the requirements of the
reg?
Doesn't the reg specify communication with the ATC facility providing
air
traffic services in that airspace?


Yes.


Which question are you answering?


You never answered that question. Are you dodging it?



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Old December 27th 06, 09:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Mark Hansen
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On 12/27/06 11:38, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
k.net...

"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
...
On 12/18/06 18:21, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
...

What do you mean "how is it done?" The pilot is in communication
with ATC, the reg says the pilot must be in communication with
ATC.


Communication with any ATC facility satisfies the requirements of the
reg?
Doesn't the reg specify communication with the ATC facility providing
air
traffic services in that airspace?


Yes.


Which question are you answering?


You never answered that question. Are you dodging it?


It seemed pointless to continue trying, so I stopped.


--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA
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Old December 27th 06, 10:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Steven P. McNicoll
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Default IFR Cancellation Question


"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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It seemed pointless to continue trying, so I stopped.


The point in asking the question was to help you understand the regulation.



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Old December 27th 06, 10:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Mark Hansen
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On 12/27/06 14:15, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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It seemed pointless to continue trying, so I stopped.


The point in asking the question was to help you understand the regulation.


Okay. Thanks for the help.


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Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA
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Old December 19th 06, 02:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
A Lieberma
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
k.net:


"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
...

What do you mean "how is it done?" The pilot is in communication
with ATC, the reg says the pilot must be in communication with
ATC.


Communication with any ATC facility satisfies the requirements of the
reg? Doesn't the reg specify communication with the ATC facility
providing air traffic services in that airspace?


You should know of all people Steven that it may not be necessary to talk
to class D tower if there is a letter of agreement between ATC components.

Just like Mark said, pilot is in communication with ATC.

I have been in HKS airspace many a times without talking to tower while
manuevering around downtown Jackson at 2000 feet. I have always been in
contact with JAN during these times and never switched over to HKS.

Allen
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Old December 26th 06, 07:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Steven P. McNicoll
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Default IFR Cancellation Question


"A Lieberma" wrote in message
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You should know of all people Steven that it may not be necessary to talk
to class D tower if there is a letter of agreement between ATC components.

Just like Mark said, pilot is in communication with ATC.

I have been in HKS airspace many a times without talking to tower while
manuevering around downtown Jackson at 2000 feet. I have always been in
contact with JAN during these times and never switched over to HKS.


We're not talking about those kinds of flights. We're talking about a
flight that intends to land at a towered field at the center of Class D
airspace


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Old December 26th 06, 08:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Mark Hansen
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Default IFR Cancellation Question

On 12/26/06 11:41, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"A Lieberma" wrote in message
. 18...

You should know of all people Steven that it may not be necessary to talk
to class D tower if there is a letter of agreement between ATC components.

Just like Mark said, pilot is in communication with ATC.

I have been in HKS airspace many a times without talking to tower while
manuevering around downtown Jackson at 2000 feet. I have always been in
contact with JAN during these times and never switched over to HKS.


We're not talking about those kinds of flights. We're talking about a
flight that intends to land at a towered field at the center of Class D
airspace



But earlier in this thread, you said:

Yes, if he's not talking to the tower when he enters Class D airspace he's
busted FAR 91.129(c)(1).



Now, you say that applies only if the pilot intends to land at the Class D
airport? Where is that distinction mentioned in the regs?
 




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