Plane plunges into sewage tank, disappears

"Cecil Chapman" wrote in message
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The sad facts is that many airplanes will not recover from a
fully developed spin with the CG aft of the utility category
limit or with three people onboard or any baggage. If a
student gets into a spin and there is any delay in recovery
or any "fight" over the controls, the outcome will be
tragic.

Some maneuvers should not be done with any passengers, even
an observer or CFI in the back seats.


The meeting was a good thing as was the decision not to fly
that day. The boss's support was good too.

The crash occurred in a Beechcraft Travelair (a multi-engine airplane) and
there is no published procedure on how to even recover from a spin in one
of these aircraft should a spin develop.


My understanding is most multi-engine planes will not recover from a spin.
They tend to spin flat without a chance of recovery.

Danny Deger

Not true, but they must be promptly and forcefully recovered
before becoming stabilized. It also helps to have but props
rotating and at idle. The position of a feathered prop can
act as a rudder or a spoiler. Some twins are heavily span
loaded and others have the mass concentrated in the
fuselage.

Very few twins are spin tested and there is little public
information about any particular model.

But any accidental spin is a killer, more so in a twin.



"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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| "Cecil Chapman" wrote in
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| news:NuAih.5082$
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| The sad facts is that many airplanes will not recover
from a
| fully developed spin with the CG aft of the utility
category
| limit or with three people onboard or any baggage. If
a
| student gets into a spin and there is any delay in
recovery
| or any "fight" over the controls, the outcome will be
| tragic.
|
| Some maneuvers should not be done with any passengers,
even
| an observer or CFI in the back seats.
|
|
| The meeting was a good thing as was the decision not to
fly
| that day. The boss's support was good too.
|
| The crash occurred in a Beechcraft Travelair (a
multi-engine airplane) and
| there is no published procedure on how to even recover
from a spin in one
| of these aircraft should a spin develop.
|
|
| My understanding is most multi-engine planes will not
recover from a spin.
| They tend to spin flat without a chance of recovery.
|
| Danny Deger
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