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Old December 22nd 06, 01:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Default Beechcraft sold

Local radio announced today, Raytheon selling Beechcraft
Goldman-Sachs/ONEX group for about 3 billion dollars.


I wish it weren't true, but you know Beech has outlived its usefulness
when my response to this sale is a lackadaisical yawn.

They have come up with precisely zero new ideas since the StarShip,
over 20 years ago, and -- their contributions to aviation history
notwithstanding -- if Beech went out of business tomorrow, it would
mean...nothing.

IMO, Beech has been irrelevant to aviation for at least ten years --
almost as long as I've been a pilot.
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Old December 22nd 06, 02:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Aluckyguess
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ps.com...
Local radio announced today, Raytheon selling Beechcraft
Goldman-Sachs/ONEX group for about 3 billion dollars.


I wish it weren't true, but you know Beech has outlived its usefulness
when my response to this sale is a lackadaisical yawn.

They have come up with precisely zero new ideas since the StarShip,
over 20 years ago, and -- their contributions to aviation history
notwithstanding -- if Beech went out of business tomorrow, it would
mean...nothing.

IMO, Beech has been irrelevant to aviation for at least ten years --
almost as long as I've been a pilot.


Have you flown a Beechcraft. They are the nicest GA aircfaft flying.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



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Old December 22nd 06, 05:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Default Beechcraft sold

Have you flown a Beechcraft. They are the nicest GA aircfaft flying.

I've flown a Bonanza and a Baron. Very nice planes, indeed, but
stupidly over-priced. And (IMHO) the Light Sport Aircraft "CT" handles
even better, for 1/7th the cost, and the Cirrus SR-22 is better still.


Beech is a grand old name, and I will hate to see it go away -- but
they've been like a grand old uncle with Alzheimer's Disease. They've
been dead in every way for years, except in body.
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
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"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old December 22nd 06, 02:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Have you flown a Beechcraft. They are the nicest GA aircfaft flying.


I've flown a Bonanza and a Baron. Very nice planes, indeed, but
stupidly over-priced. And (IMHO) the Light Sport Aircraft "CT" handles
even better, for 1/7th the cost, and the Cirrus SR-22 is better still.



You've gotta be kidding.

A Cirrus flies better than a Bo'? No way.

The Bo' is the sweetest-flying thing I've ever flown. The Cirrus is nice,
but nothing special.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM


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Old December 22nd 06, 02:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ps.com...
Have you flown a Beechcraft. They are the nicest GA aircfaft flying.


I've flown a Bonanza and a Baron. Very nice planes, indeed, but
stupidly over-priced. And (IMHO) the Light Sport Aircraft "CT" handles
even better, for 1/7th the cost, and the Cirrus SR-22 is better still.

Jay,

Wangle a flight in a Columbia 400!

Do it now! (We'll wait for you to get back to your computer...)


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Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO (MTJ)


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Old December 22nd 06, 04:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Aluckyguess
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ps.com...
Have you flown a Beechcraft. They are the nicest GA aircfaft flying.


I've flown a Bonanza and a Baron. Very nice planes, indeed, but
stupidly over-priced. And (IMHO) the Light Sport Aircraft "CT" handles
even better, for 1/7th the cost, and the Cirrus SR-22 is better still.


Beech is a grand old name, and I will hate to see it go away -- but
they've been like a grand old uncle with Alzheimer's Disease. They've
been dead in every way for years, except in body.
--

The Cirrus needs the autopilot to fly straight and level.

Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



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Old December 22nd 06, 05:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke
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"Aluckyguess" wrote :

The Cirrus needs the autopilot to fly straight and level.


Baloney.


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Old December 22nd 06, 07:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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Default Beechcraft sold

In article ,
"Dan Luke" wrote:

"Aluckyguess" wrote :

The Cirrus needs the autopilot to fly straight and level.


Baloney.


well, I would need one since I'm left-handed.

I know, I know, I'm in the minority here wrt side-sticks. But I
really don't like side-sticks.

Two things turned me off the Lancair ES: one was it was very
heavy in roll, and the other was the side-stick.

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Old December 23rd 06, 02:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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Default Beechcraft sold

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Dan Luke" wrote:

"Aluckyguess" wrote :

The Cirrus needs the autopilot to fly straight and level.


Baloney.


well, I would need one since I'm left-handed.

I know, I know, I'm in the minority here wrt side-sticks. But I
really don't like side-sticks.

Two things turned me off the Lancair ES: one was it was very
heavy in roll, and the other was the side-stick.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

You may be in the minority WRT side sticks, or you may not.

I used to think they were the coolest idea ever, at least if mounted on the
right, until I got tennis elbow a couple of times. I still haven't ever
tried a side stick; but I no longer have any desire for one because I now
see the value in being able to switch hands. BTW, I am also left handed
which would add another layer to the problem!

Peter


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Old December 28th 06, 11:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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Default Beechcraft sold

On 2006-12-22, Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,
"Dan Luke" wrote:

"Aluckyguess" wrote :

The Cirrus needs the autopilot to fly straight and level.


Baloney.


well, I would need one since I'm left-handed.


Huh? The side stick is in your left (dominant) hand. For the very short
periods of time you need to write something down, then it should stay
put if properly trimmed without needing an autopilot.

I've flown (as it happens in a Bonanza) quite a lot of single pilot IFR
hours without an autopilot. They always stay pretty much put in the
times when I'm not touching the controls to do things like re-fold
charts etc.

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