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Old December 22nd 06, 07:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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"Dan Luke" wrote:

"Aluckyguess" wrote :

The Cirrus needs the autopilot to fly straight and level.


Baloney.


well, I would need one since I'm left-handed.

I know, I know, I'm in the minority here wrt side-sticks. But I
really don't like side-sticks.

Two things turned me off the Lancair ES: one was it was very
heavy in roll, and the other was the side-stick.

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Old December 23rd 06, 02:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Dan Luke" wrote:

"Aluckyguess" wrote :

The Cirrus needs the autopilot to fly straight and level.


Baloney.


well, I would need one since I'm left-handed.

I know, I know, I'm in the minority here wrt side-sticks. But I
really don't like side-sticks.

Two things turned me off the Lancair ES: one was it was very
heavy in roll, and the other was the side-stick.

--
Bob Noel
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lawyers will hate

You may be in the minority WRT side sticks, or you may not.

I used to think they were the coolest idea ever, at least if mounted on the
right, until I got tennis elbow a couple of times. I still haven't ever
tried a side stick; but I no longer have any desire for one because I now
see the value in being able to switch hands. BTW, I am also left handed
which would add another layer to the problem!

Peter


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Old December 23rd 06, 02:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Roy Smith
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In article Hr0jh.4957$_X.4070@bigfe9,
"Peter Dohm" wrote:

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Dan Luke" wrote:

"Aluckyguess" wrote :

The Cirrus needs the autopilot to fly straight and level.

Baloney.


well, I would need one since I'm left-handed.

I know, I know, I'm in the minority here wrt side-sticks. But I
really don't like side-sticks.

Two things turned me off the Lancair ES: one was it was very
heavy in roll, and the other was the side-stick.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

You may be in the minority WRT side sticks, or you may not.

I used to think they were the coolest idea ever, at least if mounted on the
right, until I got tennis elbow a couple of times. I still haven't ever
tried a side stick; but I no longer have any desire for one because I now
see the value in being able to switch hands. BTW, I am also left handed
which would add another layer to the problem!

Peter


I suspect most of the modern side-stick designs are intended to be flown on
A/P most of the time. Click it on at rotation, click it off in the flare.
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Old December 23rd 06, 03:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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I suspect most of the modern side-stick designs are intended to be flown on
A/P most of the time. Click it on at rotation, click it off in the flare.


That ain't flying.
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Old December 23rd 06, 03:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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...intended to be flown on A/P most of the time....

That ain't flying.


Amen to that!

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Old December 23rd 06, 04:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck writes:

I suspect most of the modern side-stick designs are intended to be flown on
A/P most of the time. Click it on at rotation, click it off in the flare.


That ain't flying.


It may be the closest approximation for a pilot or aircraft that can't
really get by otherwise.

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Old December 23rd 06, 03:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article Hr0jh.4957$_X.4070@bigfe9, "Peter Dohm"
wrote:

I know, I know, I'm in the minority here wrt side-sticks. But I
really don't like side-sticks.

Two things turned me off the Lancair ES: one was it was very
heavy in roll, and the other was the side-stick.


I used to think they were the coolest idea ever, at least if mounted on the
right, until I got tennis elbow a couple of times. I still haven't ever
tried a side stick; but I no longer have any desire for one because I now
see the value in being able to switch hands. BTW, I am also left handed
which would add another layer to the problem!


I was told that the lancair owner is left-handed, which makes the design
more "interesting"

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Old December 28th 06, 11:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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On 2006-12-22, Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,
"Dan Luke" wrote:

"Aluckyguess" wrote :

The Cirrus needs the autopilot to fly straight and level.


Baloney.


well, I would need one since I'm left-handed.


Huh? The side stick is in your left (dominant) hand. For the very short
periods of time you need to write something down, then it should stay
put if properly trimmed without needing an autopilot.

I've flown (as it happens in a Bonanza) quite a lot of single pilot IFR
hours without an autopilot. They always stay pretty much put in the
times when I'm not touching the controls to do things like re-fold
charts etc.

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Old December 28th 06, 12:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article ,
Dylan Smith wrote:

well, I would need one since I'm left-handed.


Huh? The side stick is in your left (dominant) hand. For the very short
periods of time you need to write something down, then it should stay
put if properly trimmed without needing an autopilot.

I've flown (as it happens in a Bonanza) quite a lot of single pilot IFR
hours without an autopilot. They always stay pretty much put in the
times when I'm not touching the controls to do things like re-fold
charts etc.


My cherokee 140 won't stay put well enough to my liking. Even though
I have an autopilot, I prefer to be able to fly with my right hand while
writing with my left.

Perhaps a question is: is the SR22 stable enough in roll?

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Old December 28th 06, 05:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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The [Cirrus] side stick is in your left (dominant) hand. For the very short
periods of time you need to write something down, then it should stay
put if properly trimmed without needing an autopilot.


I flew a cirrus once (about an hour's worth) and found that the pitch
trim was very sensitive. It's also all-electric, so you can't tweak it
by hand. So, if the air is a little bumpy, it may need more attention
than usual to keep altitude manually.

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