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Old December 22nd 06, 11:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
DABEAR
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Paul Tomblin wrote:


There is no law against lying on the internet. There is no law against
being a scumbag on the internet. If there were, there would be a lot
fewer sites.


Fraud is against the Law on the internet and consitutes and/or involves
the use of lying.


Prosecute or sue him for the things he does which are against the law
(there appear to be many), but don't think you get him "thrown off the
internet".


Absolutely, this is the better way, because he can be denied internet
access from a Judge since it contributes to his crimes, and
incarcerated and kept from his computer or any other, for having abused
the use of the same. Fine him so that he can't afford computers,
internet services, nor even a few minutes at an internet cafe. Perhaps
teach him a lesson so he doesn't repeat his crimes.

I totally agree with you on your point immediately above and that's
what I'm progressing towards in regards to both him and his boss.
Others have been fighting Campbell, his boss, in the Courts for years
and will succeed eventually.

Either way, by Law, by act of Law, by act of a Judge, I envision both
men will be "thrown off the internet," just not in the manner implied
that you can go to a server and have them dismissed.

Only a Judge can order such a sentence and they have to commit a Felony
to lose their Constitutional Rights in a Court of Law. Misdemeanors
won't do it.

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Old December 23rd 06, 02:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Paul Tomblin
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In a previous article, "DABEAR" said:
Paul Tomblin wrote:
There is no law against lying on the internet. There is no law against
being a scumbag on the internet. If there were, there would be a lot
fewer sites.


Fraud is against the Law on the internet and consitutes and/or involves
the use of lying.


Don't quit your day job to practice law, because you suck at it. Lying
is not the sole constituent of fraud. There has to deception for personal
gain. And it has to be pretty cut-and-dried that "lie A" resulted in
"theft B", not just that you told a lot of lies to make people think
you're a big man, and that caused people to trust you who shouldn't have.

Saying "I was in Viet Nam" on a web site is not fraud. Saying "I was in
Viet Nam" in an application for vets benefits is fraud. Saying "I'm a
doctor" in a bar to pick up women isn't fraud, but saying "I'm a doctor"
and offering to perform a medical exam is fraud.

Bill O'Reilly tells worse lies every day, and all that happens to him is
that Al Franken writes books about him.

--
Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/
Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and weighs
30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and weigh
only 1 1/2 tons. ---Popular Mechanics, March 1949
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Old December 23rd 06, 03:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Dan[_2_]
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Paul Tomblin wrote:
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Bill O'Reilly tells worse lies every day, and all that happens to him is
that Al Franken writes books about him.

Franken is as big a liar as anyone, the difference is he's
constantly vulgar when he does it. I lost a lot of respect for him when
I realized he can't make a cogent argument without spewing filth.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
 




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