Beechcraft sold

"Stefan" wrote in message
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Aluckyguess schrieb:

They would all be superior to anything else on the market. Their only
problem is price,

It's pretty simple to build something superior when money isn't a factor.

Over the years there's been one aviation saying about the big three that
holds true:

Cessna builds quantity
Beech builds quality
Piper builds junk

KG

Cessna builds quantity
Beech builds quality
Piper builds junk

Ah, the old Ford vs Chevy argument again. Sound and fury,
signifying...nothing.

I'm only a datapoint of one, but having owned two Pipers, and flown the
pants off both of them, I can say that I am more than satisfied with
their quality of construction.

To put it all in perspective, would you put your family into a 1974
Ford Galaxie 500 and drive it to California from Iowa? Probably not.
But my Pathfinder, built the same year, is as good (and some ways
better than) new, and we make the equivalent of that flight several
times per year. If that's not quality construction, I don't know what
is.

All the aircraft manufacturers build a quality product -- they have to,
by law -- and Beech has been especially quality-conscious. Where they
have failed is in innovation and cost control. In the end, it doesn't
matter how fantastic your product is, if no one buys it -- and I
sincerely hope that the new owners are able to address this problem.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Cessna builds quantity
Beech builds quality
Piper builds junk

Ah, the old Ford vs Chevy argument again. Sound and fury,
signifying...nothing.

I'm only a datapoint of one, but having owned two Pipers, and flown the
pants off both of them, I can say that I am more than satisfied with
their quality of construction.

To put it all in perspective, would you put your family into a 1974
Ford Galaxie 500 and drive it to California from Iowa? Probably not.
But my Pathfinder, built the same year, is as good (and some ways
better than) new, and we make the equivalent of that flight several
times per year. If that's not quality construction, I don't know what
is.

Jay, about 98% of the cars built in 1973 are no longer on the road. What
percent of SE aircraft are still flying (more or less)?

Thank Gawd that Ford doesn't make aircraft!! :~) (at least since the
Tri-Motor...)

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Cessna builds quantity
Beech builds quality
Piper builds junk

Ah, the old Ford vs Chevy argument again. Sound and fury,
signifying...nothing


I've owned two Pipers as well. N4201Z, N7474D

One, I picked up brand new at the factory in Loch Haven. There I went
through the factory and shook William Piper's hand. I also had a brand new
private pilot's certificate in my pocket with 43 hours TT.

I wouldn't mind driving a 1963 1/2 Ford Fairlane 500 with the 427 engine
either.

There is no doubt that Beech builds to a much higher quality than Cessna,
Piper. That's why they sell so many King Airs.


Karl
"Curator" N185KG

One, I picked up brand new at the factory in Loch Haven. There I went
through the factory and shook William Piper's hand. I also had a brand new
private pilot's certificate in my pocket with 43 hours TT.

THAT is cool.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:



All the aircraft manufacturers build a quality product -- they have to,
by law -- and Beech has been especially quality-conscious.


The difference between Beech and Cessna/Piper is striking, once you've
owned one. Cessna and Piper do the absolute minimum to keep their
airplanes from falling apart in the air. You pay for that in the Beech
by the fact that it weighs more. But, it will cost me less to own my Bo
than my 182 for those parts that are made by the respective companies,
simply because the Bo was built right in the first place.

Now you're just going on. Just what part of a 25,000 hr Cessna 207 is more
poorly built than your Bonanza?

Karl
(remembering 354 Bonanzas that came apart in the sky)

The difference between Beech and Cessna/Piper is striking, once you've
owned one. Cessna and Piper do the absolute minimum to keep their
airplanes from falling apart in the air. You pay for that in the Beech by
the fact that it weighs more. But, it will cost me less to own my Bo than
my 182 for those parts that are made by the respective companies, simply
because the Bo was built right in the first place.

There's one, huh? Anything can be made to last that long. What did it
costs to keep it going all those hours? How often did it break? That's
the difference.

karl gruber wrote:
Now you're just going on. Just what part of a 25,000 hr Cessna 207 is more
poorly built than your Bonanza?

Karl
(remembering 354 Bonanzas that came apart in the sky)


The difference between Beech and Cessna/Piper is striking, once you've
owned one. Cessna and Piper do the absolute minimum to keep their
airplanes from falling apart in the air. You pay for that in the Beech by
the fact that it weighs more. But, it will cost me less to own my Bo than
my 182 for those parts that are made by the respective companies, simply
because the Bo was built right in the first place.

Beechcraft makes great planes but the thought of them having to stand up to
what the average 150 has lived through is scary.


"Newps" wrote in message
. ..
There's one, huh? Anything can be made to last that long. What did it
costs to keep it going all those hours? How often did it break? That's
the difference.

karl gruber wrote:
Now you're just going on. Just what part of a 25,000 hr Cessna 207 is
more poorly built than your Bonanza?

Karl
(remembering 354 Bonanzas that came apart in the sky)


The difference between Beech and Cessna/Piper is striking, once you've
owned one. Cessna and Piper do the absolute minimum to keep their
airplanes from falling apart in the air. You pay for that in the Beech
by the fact that it weighs more. But, it will cost me less to own my Bo
than my 182 for those parts that are made by the respective companies,
simply because the Bo was built right in the first place.

On 2006-12-27, Gig 601XL Builder wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote:
Beechcraft makes great planes but the thought of them having to stand up to
what the average 150 has lived through is scary.

I dunno - the Bonanza is a tough plane. I used to regularly fly an S-35
in and out of an "airfield" that was essentially graded cow pasture.
Plenty of prop clearance and landing gear that's happy with rough
fields.

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