Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS

I doubt you will find a URL. SOES is the Station Operations and Engineering
Squadron. I worked there from 1979 to 1981 maintaining their CH-46A SAR
birds.

Oh, wait a sec. I see why you can't find it. It's been renamed and is now
VMR-1.

http://www.cherrypoint.usmc.mil/mcabe/vmr1/vmr1.asp

Look at the history page, you'll see this is what used to be SOES.

They now have HH-46D's. Looks like they finally upgraded sometime after I
left for MCAS(H) Tustin in Southern California and was assigned to HMM-161
until I got out in 1982. They are also listed as having UC-12B King Air's,
but that's not what we had when I was there, back then they had Piper
Apache's, I forget the designationm U-something too. There were rumors they
were going to be replaced with the King Air's but when I left they had not
arrived. We already had the C-9B's and we also had some T-39 Sabreliners for
VIP transport.

This was our hangar. I assume it still is, there's one of the C-9B sitting
at its usual parking spot on the ramp.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...06781&t=k&om=1

This is a picture I took on the ramp in 1981, if I remember correctly. Been
a while. Look at the discussion page for the image, a Marine who currently
works for VMR-1 saw it and commented on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CH46-At-SOES.jpg

Juan

"Scott" wrote in message
.. .
Can you provide a link URL? I searched on the MCAS Cherry Point Website
with no luck (since I don't know what SOES is...searching with that turned
up a Sony Online Entertainment tribute). Searching with your name only
turned up 3 hits...all in 2003-2004.

Scott


Juan Jimenez wrote:



Tell you what, if you ever grow balls large enough, go check the records
of SOES, circa 1979 through 1981, at MCAS Cherry Point. In fact, check
out the records of a medevac mission in 1981 involving a mom who had just
given birth and was hemorraging, and the preemie to which she had just
given birth. Then check out the comments of the (at the time,
double-digit midget) Vietnam-vet crew chief on the aircraft that took
them from Cherry Point to the main hospital at Lejeune.

Go ahead, putz. I dare ya. But don't worry, I don't hold my breath for
all bark, no bite keyboard cowards like you.





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Thanks for the link. However, I was unable to find a reference to the

"medevac mission in 1981 involving a mom who had just
given birth and was hemorraging, and the preemie to which she had just
given birth. Then check out the comments of the (at the time,
double-digit midget) Vietnam-vet crew chief on the aircraft that took
them from Cherry Point to the main hospital at Lejeune."

It sounds like it might be interesting reading...

Scott



Juan Jimenez wrote:

I doubt you will find a URL. SOES is the Station Operations and Engineering
Squadron. I worked there from 1979 to 1981 maintaining their CH-46A SAR
birds.

Oh, wait a sec. I see why you can't find it. It's been renamed and is now
VMR-1.

http://www.cherrypoint.usmc.mil/mcabe/vmr1/vmr1.asp

Look at the history page, you'll see this is what used to be SOES.

They now have HH-46D's. Looks like they finally upgraded sometime after I
left for MCAS(H) Tustin in Southern California and was assigned to HMM-161
until I got out in 1982. They are also listed as having UC-12B King Air's,
but that's not what we had when I was there, back then they had Piper
Apache's, I forget the designationm U-something too. There were rumors they
were going to be replaced with the King Air's but when I left they had not
arrived. We already had the C-9B's and we also had some T-39 Sabreliners for
VIP transport.

This was our hangar. I assume it still is, there's one of the C-9B sitting
at its usual parking spot on the ramp.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...06781&t=k&om=1

This is a picture I took on the ramp in 1981, if I remember correctly. Been
a while. Look at the discussion page for the image, a Marine who currently
works for VMR-1 saw it and commented on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CH46-At-SOES.jpg

Juan

"Scott" wrote in message
.. .

Can you provide a link URL? I searched on the MCAS Cherry Point Website
with no luck (since I don't know what SOES is...searching with that turned
up a Sony Online Entertainment tribute). Searching with your name only
turned up 3 hits...all in 2003-2004.

Scott


Juan Jimenez wrote:



Tell you what, if you ever grow balls large enough, go check the records
of SOES, circa 1979 through 1981, at MCAS Cherry Point. In fact, check
out the records of a medevac mission in 1981 involving a mom who had just
given birth and was hemorraging, and the preemie to which she had just
given birth. Then check out the comments of the (at the time,
double-digit midget) Vietnam-vet crew chief on the aircraft that took
them from Cherry Point to the main hospital at Lejeune.

Go ahead, putz. I dare ya. But don't worry, I don't hold my breath for
all bark, no bite keyboard cowards like you.

There is no "link" for that. There was no consumer "internet" at the time.
You'll have to go to the squadron to find the records, assuming they still
have them, otherwise you'll have to ask the Marine Corps to check their
archives. I don't know how long they keep records locally.

The story is this: At 9pm I was working night duty in the avionics shop. We
were scheduled to go home on standby at about that time and were about to
cleanup and turn in our tools when the hanglar claxon went off and the PA
system announced the usual "Launch Pedro!". Pedro was the codename for
whatever helo was the duty bird. So, myself and my sidekick sat down to
wait, because if the bird was going out we had to stay in case it came back
with squawks.

Not more than 2 minutes later we get an intercom call to go to the aircraft.
So we run out there, and we can see the APU is running but no lights. I go
inside and gesture to the crew chief and he points to the lights ... no
power. I checked the obvious things, and nothing, so I turned around to my
sidekick, the slowest kid in the shop, and asked him if they had done
anything to do the bird that day. Changed the APU, he said. D-oh. Ok, did
you check it when you were done rewiring it? No. No?? Did you bother to run
it up? No. Why not? I'm not checked out. (It takes a short check and two
switches to turn on the APU on an CH-46A... that should give you the
picture.)

So, I turned around and dropped the upper rear clamshell a bit, raised the
lower one to just a few inches under, and carefully slid up to the running
APU. I removed the small plastic cover over the wires and immediately saw
what was wrong. Wiring becomes somewhat brittle over the years, and when its
put back on the wrong way it's rather obvious because of the way it looks.
So I switched the two incorrectly installed wires, replaced the cover,
safety wired it, checked for loose safety wire, inventoried tools and slid
back down.

I tell the CC to fire up the power and even though its dark and he's wearing
a helmet, he gives me one of these "Are you out of your ****ing mind?"
looks. I repeat the hand gesture to power up, he talks with the crew up
front, I can see them looking back from the cockpit, so I walk up, asked for
permission to turn on power, they sort of nodded and I did. Power came right
back up. Big smiles in the cockpit.

I went back to finish up with the crew chief (who had another huge smile on
his face). Just then I realized why he had a huge smile. Two ambulances came
roaring down the ramp and parked right behind the helo. Out came a woman in
a stretcher, clearly in distress. Behind her came a portable incubator with
a preemie. The woman had just given birth and was hemorraghing, they were on
the way to Lejeune because that's where the big hospital was located.

We got off and the helo fired up its engines and roared off into the night
sky. Came back with no squawks, so we went home. The next day the Vietnam
vet crew chief (and senior crew chief in the squadron) told everyone in the
squadron I knew my **** down cold and he'd trust me to work on anything with
a wire on his bird. I already had the ability to do just that, but that one
compliment made my whole year. Doesn't happen very often.

Within weeks I got my best eval ever and had my txfr request out of NC
approved, to California. The rest is history, and records from that day will
verify everything happened exactly as I state here.

And yes, both the mom and the child were OK, I just never heard from them
again.

"Scott" wrote in message
.. .
Thanks for the link. However, I was unable to find a reference to the
"medevac mission in 1981 involving a mom who had just
given birth and was hemorraging, and the preemie to which she had just
given birth. Then check out the comments of the (at the time,
double-digit midget) Vietnam-vet crew chief on the aircraft that took
them from Cherry Point to the main hospital at Lejeune."

It sounds like it might be interesting reading...

Scott



Juan Jimenez wrote:

I doubt you will find a URL. SOES is the Station Operations and
Engineering Squadron. I worked there from 1979 to 1981 maintaining their
CH-46A SAR birds.

Oh, wait a sec. I see why you can't find it. It's been renamed and is now
VMR-1.

http://www.cherrypoint.usmc.mil/mcabe/vmr1/vmr1.asp

Look at the history page, you'll see this is what used to be SOES.

They now have HH-46D's. Looks like they finally upgraded sometime after I
left for MCAS(H) Tustin in Southern California and was assigned to
HMM-161 until I got out in 1982. They are also listed as having UC-12B
King Air's, but that's not what we had when I was there, back then they
had Piper Apache's, I forget the designationm U-something too. There were
rumors they were going to be replaced with the King Air's but when I left
they had not arrived. We already had the C-9B's and we also had some T-39
Sabreliners for VIP transport.

This was our hangar. I assume it still is, there's one of the C-9B
sitting at its usual parking spot on the ramp.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...06781&t=k&om=1

This is a picture I took on the ramp in 1981, if I remember correctly.
Been a while. Look at the discussion page for the image, a Marine who
currently
works for VMR-1 saw it and commented on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CH46-At-SOES.jpg

Juan

"Scott" wrote in message
.. .

Can you provide a link URL? I searched on the MCAS Cherry Point Website
with no luck (since I don't know what SOES is...searching with that
turned
up a Sony Online Entertainment tribute). Searching with your name only
turned up 3 hits...all in 2003-2004.

Scott


Juan Jimenez wrote:



Tell you what, if you ever grow balls large enough, go check the records
of SOES, circa 1979 through 1981, at MCAS Cherry Point. In fact, check
out the records of a medevac mission in 1981 involving a mom who had
just
given birth and was hemorraging, and the preemie to which she had just
given birth. Then check out the comments of the (at the time,
double-digit midget) Vietnam-vet crew chief on the aircraft that took
them from Cherry Point to the main hospital at Lejeune.

Go ahead, putz. I dare ya. But don't worry, I don't hold my breath for
all bark, no bite keyboard cowards like you.







--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

So, you did a job you considered simple under pressure. Doesn't appear to
be a career-defining moment, to me.



" Within weeks I got my best eval ever and had my txfr request out of NC
approved, to California. The rest is history, and records from that day
will verify everything happened exactly as I state here.

Yes, it would seem so to someone who doesn't value the lives of a mother and
a newborn, wouldn't it.

Putz.

"anon" wrote in message
m...
So, you did a job you considered simple under pressure. Doesn't appear to
be a career-defining moment, to me.

" Within weeks I got my best eval ever and had my txfr request out of NC
approved, to California. The rest is history, and records from that day
will verify everything happened exactly as I state here.





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Only a stupid **** like you could make such a statement.

You are the one that characterized your repair as quick and simple. I don't
see how anyone could view this as a career-defining moment. For all we know,
you might have been a terrible Marine.


"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
.. .
Yes, it would seem so to someone who doesn't value the lives of a mother
and a newborn, wouldn't it.

Putz.

Come on ANON, the Lone Ranger and his trusty "sidekick" rode to the
rescue and singlehandedly saved a damsel in distress. Give credit
where credit is due. It was an heroic effort that could only have been
done by someone showing courage in the face of extreme danger and
knowing that lives were at stake. I just can't figure out why he
didn't receive the congressional medal of honor for his efforts. Must
have been an oversight on somebody's part. I am surprised that they
would let someone so obviously valuable and knowledgable transfer to
another base after such a heroic feat...again an oversight on
somebody's part.


anon wrote:
Only a stupid **** like you could make such a statement.

You are the one that characterized your repair as quick and simple. I don't
see how anyone could view this as a career-defining moment. For all we know,
you might have been a terrible Marine.


"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
.. .
Yes, it would seem so to someone who doesn't value the lives of a mother
and a newborn, wouldn't it.

Putz.

"anon" wrote in message
m...
Only a stupid **** like you could make such a statement.

Actually, you did. And you proved you have zero reading comprehension. Two
putz awards for the prize of one. You go, boi!

mercy snip



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Didn't the reference to the double-digit midget Vietnam-era crew chief sound
a little awkward? It sounds a little disrespectful to me. I believe Juan's
story, but the crew chief reference reminds me of when people add a little
jargon or colorful characters to give credibility to a lie.

This is best described in a scene from Reservoir Dogs:

"The things you gotta remember are the details. It's the details that sell
your story. Now this story takes place in this men's room. So you gotta
know the details about this men's room. You gotta know they got a blower
instead of a towel to dry your hands. You gotta know the stalls ain't got
no doors. You gotta know whether they got liquid or powdered soap, whether
they got hot water or not, 'cause if you do your job when you tell your
story, everybody should believe it. And if you tell your story to somebody
who's actually taken a **** in this men's room, and you get one detail they
remember right, they'll swear by you."



"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
.. .
There is no "link" for that. There was no consumer "internet" at the time.
You'll have to go to the squadron to find the records, assuming they still
have them, otherwise you'll have to ask the Marine Corps to check their
archives. I don't know how long they keep records locally.

The story is this: At 9pm I was working night duty in the avionics shop.
We were scheduled to go home on standby at about that time and were about
to cleanup and turn in our tools when the hanglar claxon went off and the
PA system announced the usual "Launch Pedro!". Pedro was the codename for
whatever helo was the duty bird. So, myself and my sidekick sat down to
wait, because if the bird was going out we had to stay in case it came
back with squawks.

Not more than 2 minutes later we get an intercom call to go to the
aircraft. So we run out there, and we can see the APU is running but no
lights. I go inside and gesture to the crew chief and he points to the
lights ... no power. I checked the obvious things, and nothing, so I
turned around to my sidekick, the slowest kid in the shop, and asked him
if they had done anything to do the bird that day. Changed the APU, he
said. D-oh. Ok, did you check it when you were done rewiring it? No. No??
Did you bother to run it up? No. Why not? I'm not checked out. (It takes a
short check and two switches to turn on the APU on an CH-46A... that
should give you the picture.)

So, I turned around and dropped the upper rear clamshell a bit, raised the
lower one to just a few inches under, and carefully slid up to the running
APU. I removed the small plastic cover over the wires and immediately saw
what was wrong. Wiring becomes somewhat brittle over the years, and when
its put back on the wrong way it's rather obvious because of the way it
looks. So I switched the two incorrectly installed wires, replaced the
cover, safety wired it, checked for loose safety wire, inventoried tools
and slid back down.

I tell the CC to fire up the power and even though its dark and he's
wearing a helmet, he gives me one of these "Are you out of your ****ing
mind?" looks. I repeat the hand gesture to power up, he talks with the
crew up front, I can see them looking back from the cockpit, so I walk up,
asked for permission to turn on power, they sort of nodded and I did.
Power came right back up. Big smiles in the cockpit.

I went back to finish up with the crew chief (who had another huge smile
on his face). Just then I realized why he had a huge smile. Two ambulances
came roaring down the ramp and parked right behind the helo. Out came a
woman in a stretcher, clearly in distress. Behind her came a portable
incubator with a preemie. The woman had just given birth and was
hemorraghing, they were on the way to Lejeune because that's where the big
hospital was located.

We got off and the helo fired up its engines and roared off into the night
sky. Came back with no squawks, so we went home. The next day the Vietnam
vet crew chief (and senior crew chief in the squadron) told everyone in
the squadron I knew my **** down cold and he'd trust me to work on
anything with a wire on his bird. I already had the ability to do just
that, but that one compliment made my whole year. Doesn't happen very
often.

Within weeks I got my best eval ever and had my txfr request out of NC
approved, to California. The rest is history, and records from that day
will verify everything happened exactly as I state here.

And yes, both the mom and the child were OK, I just never heard from them
again.

"Scott" wrote in message
.. .
Thanks for the link. However, I was unable to find a reference to the
"medevac mission in 1981 involving a mom who had just
given birth and was hemorraging, and the preemie to which she had just
given birth. Then check out the comments of the (at the time,
double-digit midget) Vietnam-vet crew chief on the aircraft that took
them from Cherry Point to the main hospital at Lejeune."

It sounds like it might be interesting reading...

Scott



Juan Jimenez wrote:

I doubt you will find a URL. SOES is the Station Operations and
Engineering Squadron. I worked there from 1979 to 1981 maintaining their
CH-46A SAR birds.

Oh, wait a sec. I see why you can't find it. It's been renamed and is
now VMR-1.

http://www.cherrypoint.usmc.mil/mcabe/vmr1/vmr1.asp

Look at the history page, you'll see this is what used to be SOES.

They now have HH-46D's. Looks like they finally upgraded sometime after
I left for MCAS(H) Tustin in Southern California and was assigned to
HMM-161 until I got out in 1982. They are also listed as having UC-12B
King Air's, but that's not what we had when I was there, back then they
had Piper Apache's, I forget the designationm U-something too. There
were rumors they were going to be replaced with the King Air's but when
I left they had not arrived. We already had the C-9B's and we also had
some T-39 Sabreliners for VIP transport.

This was our hangar. I assume it still is, there's one of the C-9B
sitting at its usual parking spot on the ramp.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...06781&t=k&om=1

This is a picture I took on the ramp in 1981, if I remember correctly.
Been a while. Look at the discussion page for the image, a Marine who
currently
works for VMR-1 saw it and commented on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CH46-At-SOES.jpg

Juan

"Scott" wrote in message
.. .

Can you provide a link URL? I searched on the MCAS Cherry Point Website
with no luck (since I don't know what SOES is...searching with that
turned
up a Sony Online Entertainment tribute). Searching with your name only
turned up 3 hits...all in 2003-2004.

Scott


Juan Jimenez wrote:



Tell you what, if you ever grow balls large enough, go check the
records
of SOES, circa 1979 through 1981, at MCAS Cherry Point. In fact, check
out the records of a medevac mission in 1981 involving a mom who had
just
given birth and was hemorraging, and the preemie to which she had just
given birth. Then check out the comments of the (at the time,
double-digit midget) Vietnam-vet crew chief on the aircraft that took
them from Cherry Point to the main hospital at Lejeune.

Go ahead, putz. I dare ya. But don't worry, I don't hold my breath for
all bark, no bite keyboard cowards like you.







--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

The story is this: At 9pm I was working night duty in the avionics shop.
We were scheduled to go home on standby at about that time and were about
to cleanup and turn in our tools when the hanglar claxon went off



Not sure about the MC, but in the Air Force, going on standby meant
things were slow and you didn't pull your entire shift sitting in the
shop...you went back to the dorms or the bowling alley with a pager so
they could get a hold of you if needed.



I checked the obvious things, and nothing, so I
turned around to my sidekick, the slowest kid in the shop,



I'm beginning to doubt THAT...



and asked him
if they had done anything to do the bird that day. Changed the APU, he
said. D-oh. Ok, did you check it when you were done rewiring it? No. No??
Did you bother to run it up? No. Why not? I'm not checked out. (It takes a
short check and two switches to turn on the APU on an CH-46A... that
should give you the picture.)


I'd say he did what was expected of him. It may have been a simple job,
but if he wasn't signed off for that and did it anyway, it would have
shown that he couldn't follow simple instructions and he could have
damaged the equipment and cost us taxpayers more money (which you
obviously don't care about). Yes, it should have been checked out, but
he should have asked you to do it since you were obviously checked out.
Since he appears to have been working on your shift, why was it that
YOU didn't know maintenance had been done to the unit? Were you
sleeping in the box room or blowing the unit commander?



The next day the Vietnam
vet crew chief (and senior crew chief in the squadron) told everyone in
the squadron I knew my **** down cold and he'd trust me to work on
anything with a wire on his bird. I already had the ability to do just
that, but that one compliment made my whole year. Doesn't happen very
often.


What doesn't happen very often? You do something right or you get
noticed for doing something right? So, you only had one worthwhile
moment in a whole year? With that average, you must have done 3 more
"incredible" things during your stint. Can you provide links for these
as well?



Within weeks I got my best eval ever and had my txfr request out of NC
approved, to California. The rest is history, and records from that day
will verify everything happened exactly as I state here.



If they loved you so much, you would think the CO would deny your
request to keep you around for all the other emergencies that came
up...I don't doubt that's exactly how it happened, but again, what's the
big deal?



And yes, both the mom and the child were OK, I just never heard from them
again.


After seeing this thread they probably blew their brains out from the
depression of knowing you were somehow minutely involved in their lives.