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  #131  
Old December 27th 06, 09:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Newps writes:

Please. Leica sells a about a 5 MP digital camera for over a thousand
bucks when the going price for everybody else is around $300.


Leica's selling point is the glass, which unfortunately isn't really
used by digital cameras.

Also Leica doesn't have nearly the features that everybody else does.


The features that other people have aren't normally necessary.

No way, no how can the quality of the pictures be worth 200% more on the
price.


You need to look through some Leica glass sometime.

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  #132  
Old December 27th 06, 10:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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There's one, huh? Anything can be made to last that long. What did it
costs to keep it going all those hours? How often did it break? That's
the difference.

karl gruber wrote:
Now you're just going on. Just what part of a 25,000 hr Cessna 207 is more
poorly built than your Bonanza?

Karl
(remembering 354 Bonanzas that came apart in the sky)


The difference between Beech and Cessna/Piper is striking, once you've
owned one. Cessna and Piper do the absolute minimum to keep their
airplanes from falling apart in the air. You pay for that in the Beech by
the fact that it weighs more. But, it will cost me less to own my Bo than
my 182 for those parts that are made by the respective companies, simply
because the Bo was built right in the first place.




  #133  
Old December 27th 06, 10:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Beechcraft makes great planes but the thought of them having to stand up to
what the average 150 has lived through is scary.


"Newps" wrote in message
. ..
There's one, huh? Anything can be made to last that long. What did it
costs to keep it going all those hours? How often did it break? That's
the difference.

karl gruber wrote:
Now you're just going on. Just what part of a 25,000 hr Cessna 207 is
more poorly built than your Bonanza?

Karl
(remembering 354 Bonanzas that came apart in the sky)


The difference between Beech and Cessna/Piper is striking, once you've
owned one. Cessna and Piper do the absolute minimum to keep their
airplanes from falling apart in the air. You pay for that in the Beech
by the fact that it weighs more. But, it will cost me less to own my Bo
than my 182 for those parts that are made by the respective companies,
simply because the Bo was built right in the first place.




  #134  
Old December 28th 06, 01:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
karl gruber[_1_]
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No, there isn't ONE!

That's about the AVERAGE age of the 207 fleet. They are mostly up in Alaska
going through an engine every year. I buy and sell them.

Karl

"Newps" wrote in message
. ..
There's one, huh? Anything can be made to last that long. What did it
costs to keep it going all those hours? How often did it break? That's
the difference.

karl gruber wrote:
Now you're just going on. Just what part of a 25,000 hr Cessna 207 is
more poorly built than your Bonanza?

Karl
(remembering 354 Bonanzas that came apart in the sky)


The difference between Beech and Cessna/Piper is striking, once you've
owned one. Cessna and Piper do the absolute minimum to keep their
airplanes from falling apart in the air. You pay for that in the Beech
by the fact that it weighs more. But, it will cost me less to own my Bo
than my 182 for those parts that are made by the respective companies,
simply because the Bo was built right in the first place.




  #135  
Old December 28th 06, 05:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dave Stadt
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"karl gruber" wrote in message
...
No, there isn't ONE!

That's about the AVERAGE age of the 207 fleet. They are mostly up in
Alaska going through an engine every year. I buy and sell them.

Karl


Having been up there and having seen what they go through I doubt any Beech,
other than an 18, could last as long.


"Newps" wrote in message
. ..
There's one, huh? Anything can be made to last that long. What did it
costs to keep it going all those hours? How often did it break? That's
the difference.

karl gruber wrote:
Now you're just going on. Just what part of a 25,000 hr Cessna 207 is
more poorly built than your Bonanza?

Karl
(remembering 354 Bonanzas that came apart in the sky)


The difference between Beech and Cessna/Piper is striking, once you've
owned one. Cessna and Piper do the absolute minimum to keep their
airplanes from falling apart in the air. You pay for that in the Beech
by the fact that it weighs more. But, it will cost me less to own my Bo
than my 182 for those parts that are made by the respective companies,
simply because the Bo was built right in the first place.





  #136  
Old December 28th 06, 11:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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On 2006-12-22, Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,
"Dan Luke" wrote:

"Aluckyguess" wrote :

The Cirrus needs the autopilot to fly straight and level.


Baloney.


well, I would need one since I'm left-handed.


Huh? The side stick is in your left (dominant) hand. For the very short
periods of time you need to write something down, then it should stay
put if properly trimmed without needing an autopilot.

I've flown (as it happens in a Bonanza) quite a lot of single pilot IFR
hours without an autopilot. They always stay pretty much put in the
times when I'm not touching the controls to do things like re-fold
charts etc.

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  #137  
Old December 28th 06, 11:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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On 2006-12-27, Gig 601XL Builder wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote:
Beechcraft makes great planes but the thought of them having to stand up to
what the average 150 has lived through is scary.


I dunno - the Bonanza is a tough plane. I used to regularly fly an S-35
in and out of an "airfield" that was essentially graded cow pasture.
Plenty of prop clearance and landing gear that's happy with rough
fields.

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  #138  
Old December 28th 06, 11:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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On 2006-12-27, Newps wrote:
Please. Leica sells a about a 5 MP digital camera for over a thousand
bucks when the going price for everybody else is around $300.


I don't know about Leica in particular, but compare the image quality of
a 5MP camera with a decent lens with a $300 camera. Even if the $300
camera has a 10MP sensor, the 5MP camera with a full frame 35mm sensor
and decent lenses will look FAR superior, have much less noise
(particularly on long exposures). Megapixels is almost meaningless
unless you have the lens to back it up AND the sensor itself is large
(the typical sensor in a $300 camera will be smaller than your pinky
fingernail).

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  #139  
Old December 28th 06, 12:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Dylan Smith wrote:

well, I would need one since I'm left-handed.


Huh? The side stick is in your left (dominant) hand. For the very short
periods of time you need to write something down, then it should stay
put if properly trimmed without needing an autopilot.

I've flown (as it happens in a Bonanza) quite a lot of single pilot IFR
hours without an autopilot. They always stay pretty much put in the
times when I'm not touching the controls to do things like re-fold
charts etc.


My cherokee 140 won't stay put well enough to my liking. Even though
I have an autopilot, I prefer to be able to fly with my right hand while
writing with my left.

Perhaps a question is: is the SR22 stable enough in roll?

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  #140  
Old December 28th 06, 12:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Dylan Smith writes:

I don't know about Leica in particular, but compare the image quality of
a 5MP camera with a decent lens with a $300 camera.


Then try one. You may be surprised.

Even if the $300 camera has a 10MP sensor, the 5MP camera with a full
frame 35mm sensor and decent lenses will look FAR superior, have much
less noise (particularly on long exposures).


See above.

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