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Old December 28th 06, 09:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Jay Honeck writes:

Sadly, the reason GA flying is priced so high is because so few people
actually want to do it.


In part, but there are also other obstacles. It's extremely hard to
get a pilot's license as compared to a driver's license, for example
(independent of the extremely high cost).

Oh, wait -- you *can* buy an airplane for about what a new car costs.
Our old Warrior, which faithfully carried my family from coast to coast
from '98 to '02, cost less than our hotel's courtesy van.


Which is more comfortable across country?

And STILL there isn't a plane in every garage. Why?


Too expensive, too difficult, too inconvenient. This limits flying to
the real enthusiasts.

But Mary and I work on converting each and every one of those "pilot
wannabees" who step into our lobby. I'll set them in the Kiwi, get 'em
shooting an approach into Madeline Island at sunset, and watch the
gears start turning...


Until clocks, calendars, and wallets lock those gears in place again.

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Old December 28th 06, 10:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Oh, wait -- you *can* buy an airplane for about what a new car costs.
Our old Warrior, which faithfully carried my family from coast to coast
from '98 to '02, cost less than our hotel's courtesy van.


Which is more comfortable across country?


Actually, if you're talking cross-country, I'll take the Warrior.
True, it's not as spacious inside, but it's plenty comfortable, and
it'll get you across the country in hours, rather than days.
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Iowa City, IA
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old December 28th 06, 10:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Jay Honeck writes:

Actually, if you're talking cross-country, I'll take the Warrior.
True, it's not as spacious inside, but it's plenty comfortable, and
it'll get you across the country in hours, rather than days.


Do you sleep inside the aircraft, or do you land it inside the parking
lot of the hotel?

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Old December 28th 06, 10:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Actually, if you're talking cross-country, I'll take the Warrior.
True, it's not as spacious inside, but it's plenty comfortable, and
it'll get you across the country in hours, rather than days.


Do you sleep inside the aircraft, or do you land it inside the parking
lot of the hotel?


Personally, I have never slept in my plane(s). I know guys who do,
however, routinely.

It's not as uncomfortable as you might think. Interestingly enough
(and slightly OT), I can fit MORE stuff in our Pathfinder than I can in
our Subaru station wagon with the seats folded down. It doesn't *look*
like it should all fit, but it does.

We've got plywood sheets (from a previous owner) that have been cut to
fit from behind the front seats, all the way to the baggage compartment
bulkhead. (You take the back seats out to do this, obviously.) The
end result is a mini-van-sized area that would easily fit an air bed,
if desired.

Anyway, flying cross country will get me to Reno, NV by suppertime, or
to the east coast of the United States by mid-afternoon. Or, I can be
in Florida in six hours, and to Canada in three.

With GA, there is little need for too many intermediate en route
hotels!

:-)
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Iowa City, IA
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Old December 29th 06, 04:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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OK Jay, you have tolerated this guy, and have been one of the most open
minded and welcoming of the "regulars" on this NG.

Do you still feel the same way, or are you rolling your eyes or gnashing
your teeth yet at his imbecilic replies? I find it pretty intolerable to
accept responses from a person who admits that they are afraid to fly, yet
somehow makes pronouncements like a 5,000 hour pro.(example: "straight in
approaches are OK")

You're probably right in not responding, but I guess I'm more intolerant of
idiots and lunacy. I suppose it's better to feel sorry for him and accept
him for what he is, but when he argues with no factual basis, it becomes
hard to take.

I guess that's newsgroup at it's worst. It sure was nice not seeing his
posts for a few days.


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Old December 29th 06, 05:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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You're probably right in not responding, but I guess I'm more intolerant of
idiots and lunacy. I suppose it's better to feel sorry for him and accept
him for what he is, but when he argues with no factual basis, it becomes
hard to take.


I do feel sorry for him. He's built a reality that only he can
appreciate, and a strange intolerance for something he apparently
loves. Why in the world someone would want to emulate flying without
ever really *doing* it is simply beyond my comprehension.

But the world is full of interesting folks, and anything that confuses
me I usually find difficult to ignore. So, I keep swinging for the
fence.

MX is obviously not stupid, yet his responses are stubbornly illogical
at times. In my experience with the public I have found that this
trait isn't unusual -- so perhaps I'm just more used to it than you
are?
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
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Old December 29th 06, 05:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Why in the world someone would want to emulate flying without
ever really *doing* it is simply beyond my comprehension.


Well, I might prefer to emulate Indy 500 racing than actually doing it.

Jose
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Old December 29th 06, 08:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Jay Honeck writes:

Why in the world someone would want to emulate flying without
ever really *doing* it is simply beyond my comprehension.


Perhaps because you assume that flying in reality is unconditionally
preferable to flying in simulation. However, just as flying for real
has advantages that simulation does not, flying in simulation has
advantages that flying for real does not. Thus, it's entirely to be
expected that some people would prefer simulation to real flight.

I've given examples before, but I can repeat a few. One example is
that flying for real actually requires that one go somewhere. For
people who don't like to travel or commute, this is a huge drawback to
flying for real. Simulation takes you nowhere in real-world terms,
and so it's ideal if you don't actually want to go anywhere.
Simulation allows you to fly without paying the price of actually
moving from place to place, with all the inconveniences that the
latter brings.

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Old December 29th 06, 01:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I agree, although it is frustrating to see an interesting discourse get
disrupted by argumentative comments and lack of logic or experience.

You almost sound like a closet democrat! It must come from living in that
liberal town!

Best wishes.
JN


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Old December 29th 06, 09:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default GA is priceless

In article .com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

MX is obviously not stupid, yet his responses are stubbornly illogical
at times. In my experience with the public I have found that this
trait isn't unusual -- so perhaps I'm just more used to it than you
are?


Or possibly based on his virtual perception of reality.
 




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