GA is priceless

OK Jay, you have tolerated this guy, and have been one of the most open
minded and welcoming of the "regulars" on this NG.

Do you still feel the same way, or are you rolling your eyes or gnashing
your teeth yet at his imbecilic replies? I find it pretty intolerable to
accept responses from a person who admits that they are afraid to fly, yet
somehow makes pronouncements like a 5,000 hour pro.(example: "straight in
approaches are OK")

You're probably right in not responding, but I guess I'm more intolerant of
idiots and lunacy. I suppose it's better to feel sorry for him and accept
him for what he is, but when he argues with no factual basis, it becomes
hard to take.

I guess that's newsgroup at it's worst. It sure was nice not seeing his
posts for a few days.

You're probably right in not responding, but I guess I'm more intolerant of
idiots and lunacy. I suppose it's better to feel sorry for him and accept
him for what he is, but when he argues with no factual basis, it becomes
hard to take.

I do feel sorry for him. He's built a reality that only he can
appreciate, and a strange intolerance for something he apparently
loves. Why in the world someone would want to emulate flying without
ever really *doing* it is simply beyond my comprehension.

But the world is full of interesting folks, and anything that confuses
me I usually find difficult to ignore. So, I keep swinging for the
fence.

MX is obviously not stupid, yet his responses are stubbornly illogical
at times. In my experience with the public I have found that this
trait isn't unusual -- so perhaps I'm just more used to it than you
are?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Why in the world someone would want to emulate flying without
ever really *doing* it is simply beyond my comprehension.

Well, I might prefer to emulate Indy 500 racing than actually doing it.

Jose
--
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Jose writes:

Well, I might prefer to emulate Indy 500 racing than actually doing it.

Quite so, and many people do just that. Examples of simulation being
preferred over the real thing are legion. Many people enjoy
first-person shooter games, but have no desire to shoot or be shot at
in real life. Many people enjoy virtual football play, but have no
desire to play football for real. The list goes on and on.

Nothing makes real flying inherently superior to simulation as a
hobby. It all depends on what you want, and how well that matches
what you get.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Jose writes:


Well, I might prefer to emulate Indy 500 racing than actually doing it.


Quite so, and many people do just that. Examples of simulation being
preferred over the real thing are legion. Many people enjoy
first-person shooter games, but have no desire to shoot or be shot at
in real life. Many people enjoy virtual football play, but have no
desire to play football for real. The list goes on and on.

Nothing makes real flying inherently superior to simulation as a
hobby. It all depends on what you want, and how well that matches
what you get.

One would think you've never flown in a *real* light aircraft...nothing
making real flying inherently superior to simulation...sheesh.
Ever had the wind in your face at 75 knots in a open cockpit bi-plane ?
Ever had that *wonderful* experience of an engine-out 50 miles from the
nearest airstrip ? Ever had the dizyiny execeleration of spinning in a
*real* aircraft ? Ever experienced the sudden terror of realizing that
you're in a sprial dive and rapidly nearing Vne ?
I've been in a "couple" of simulators in my time but have yet to find
one that can simulate a loop or an Himmelman...and let's not even talk
about "games" like Flight Simulator !

....Ken

Ken Chaddock writes:

One would think you've never flown in a *real* light aircraft...nothing
making real flying inherently superior to simulation...sheesh.

It's hard for some people to recognize the subjectivity of such
opinions.

Ever had the wind in your face at 75 knots in a open cockpit bi-plane ?

No. I don't like being in high winds.

Ever had that *wonderful* experience of an engine-out 50 miles from the
nearest airstrip ?

No. I don't like unsafe situations.

Ever had the dizyiny execeleration of spinning in a *real* aircraft ?

See above.

Ever experienced the sudden terror of realizing that you're in a sprial
dive and rapidly nearing Vne ?

See above.

I've been in a "couple" of simulators in my time but have yet to find
one that can simulate a loop or an Himmelman ...

Why would you want to simulate these?

... and let's not even talk about "games" like Flight Simulator !

At least in a simulator a bad pilot can survive his mistakes.

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Nothing makes real flying inherently superior to simulation as a
hobby.

I can name a dozen things that make flying inherently superior to
simulation as a hobby. But then, you already know what they are.

The Kiwi is a lot of fun, and MS Flight Sim is a terrific program, but
it'll never match flying as a hobby -- no matter *how* perfect I can
make the experience.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck writes:

I can name a dozen things that make flying inherently superior to
simulation as a hobby.

No, you cannot.

I'm sure you can easily name a dozen things that you personally prefer
about flying for real as opposed to flying in simulation. But that's
not the same thing as objective superiority, of course.

The Kiwi is a lot of fun, and MS Flight Sim is a terrific program, but
it'll never match flying as a hobby -- no matter *how* perfect I can
make the experience.

You'll never die in a simulator, either.

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Is anyone else picturing our resident troll playing Flight Sim when they
watch this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9pgOmlHE2k

tell that to rec.sport.paintball

Mxsmanic wrote:
Many people enjoy
first-person shooter games, but have no desire to shoot or be shot at
in real life.