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Judah wrote:
Newps wrote in news:QamdnVvc- : My kid wants to go to college to be an airline pilot. I am slowly trying to dissuade him from that. Right now an airline career sucks and I don't see it getting better in the distant future. There's no way I'd ever encourage someone to give up a career to go into aviation. But, sometimes you gotta follow your dreams. The forecast for IT is worse than the forecast for aviation... Really? Which forecast is that? Matt |
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Judah wrote:
Newps wrote in news:QamdnVvc- : My kid wants to go to college to be an airline pilot. I am slowly trying to dissuade him from that. Right now an airline career sucks and I don't see it getting better in the distant future. There's no way I'd ever encourage someone to give up a career to go into aviation. But, sometimes you gotta follow your dreams. The forecast for IT is worse than the forecast for aviation... What part of 36% job growth and average pay of $83K don't you like? http://money.cnn.com/popups/2006/pf/...secrets/5.html |
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Matt Whiting wrote in news:qwFlh.1948$Oc.121815
@news1.epix.net: The forecast for IT is worse than the forecast for aviation... What part of 36% job growth and average pay of $83K don't you like? http://money.cnn.com/popups/2006/pf/...secrets/5.html The part in India, Russia, & China where Software Development is really taking off. |
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Judah wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote in news:qwFlh.1948$Oc.121815 @news1.epix.net: The forecast for IT is worse than the forecast for aviation... What part of 36% job growth and average pay of $83K don't you like? http://money.cnn.com/popups/2006/pf/...secrets/5.html The part in India, Russia, & China where Software Development is really taking off. True, but even so the outlook here is still good which is counter to your claim. Matt |
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Matt Whiting wrote in news:RCPlh.1955$Oc.121978
@news1.epix.net: True, but even so the outlook here is still good which is counter to your claim. Depends on how much stake you put in the forecast of a magazine journalist. |
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Judah wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote in news:RCPlh.1955$Oc.121978 @news1.epix.net: True, but even so the outlook here is still good which is counter to your claim. Depends on how much stake you put in the forecast of a magazine journalist. Show me a better forecast. Or any forecast at all that supports your claim... Matt |
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Matt Whiting wrote in
: Show me a better forecast. Or any forecast at all that supports your claim... The government, as well as some job search sites, seem to disagree with Money Magazine... I wish it weren't true either, since I am a computer programmer by trade, and my current business is essentially computer software (although my business' outlook would seem better than my trade's). The other thing I will mention is that while the average salaries are probably moving slightly up, the high and lows are moving closer to the average. So as a leading, well-known, published programmer in the late 90's I was able to easily command a very respectable rate at the top of the curve, which was more than double the average. The top of the curve has consistently gone down over the past 5 years to be more in line with the average programmer who couldn't code his way out of a rubix cube. Anyway, here are your sources. It didn't take me very long to find these on Google, I am sure you could find many more on your own if you would like... http://www.calmis.ca.gov/file/occguide/COMPUPRO.HTM "The estimated number of job opportunities for Computer Programmers from 1998 through 2008 is expected to total 12,100. The Computer Programmer occupation will grow slower than average compared with all occupations in California." http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos110.htm "Employment of programmers is expected to grow more slowly than the average for all occupations through the year 2014. Sophisticated computer software now has the capability to write basic code, eliminating the need for many programmers to do this routine work. The consolidation and centralization of systems and applications, developments in packaged software, advances in programming languages and tools, and the growing ability of users to design, write, and implement more of their own programs mean that more of the programming functions can be transferred from programmers to other types of information workers, such as computer software engineers. Another factor limiting growth in employment is the outsourcing of these jobs to other countries. Computer programmers can perform their job function from anywhere in the world and can digitally transmit their programs to any location via e-mail. Programmers are at a much higher risk of having their jobs outsourced abroad than are workers involved in more complex and sophisticated information technology functions, such as software engineering, because computer programming has become an international language, requiring little localized or specialized knowledge. Additionally, the work of computer programmers can be routinized, once knowledge of a particular programming language is mastered." http://jobsearchtech.about.com/od/co...programmer.htm "The U.S. job outlook for computer programmers is not as good as it used to be. Through 2014, the occupation is forecasted to grow more slowly than the average for all other occupations. That's mostly due to the loss of U.S. programming jobs to overseas outsourcing, along with technological advances that have almost eliminated routine programming tasks." |
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