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Old December 31st 06, 01:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Juan Jimenez[_1_]
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Default Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS


"Scott" wrote in message
.. .
Ask them for what? To verify you were in the MC? That you did your job?
Yeah, it was a good thing that you did, no doubt, but it sounds just like
any other day in the Air Force.


LOL! Yeah, sure, that must be the story.

I was in the Air Force and stationed at Keesler (Biloxi, MS) during
Hurricane Elena in 1985. (Yes, THAT sucked!). Anyhow, after the breeze
stopped (broke the wind measuring equipment at 125 MPH, so never did find
out how hard it blew), it was found that there was no power on the base
and our amateur radio repeater was thus off the air. Officials were
relying on it to bridge the gap in communications between Gulfport and
Pascagoula. So what did I do? I walked out to the street in front of my
dorm, found a wrecked car, lifted the hood and stole the battery. Hand
carried it about a half a mile to the radio club building and hooked it up
to the repeater and got it on the air (had to do a makeshift repair on the
antenna as well). Got a letter of commendation for "rising to the
occasion". I can scan a copy if you wish. I don't feel I went above and
beyond, but the base CO appreciated it enough to write a letter to our CO.
All that for a petty theft


So, the battery was your substitute for the kid? Hmm. Weird logic, but what
the heck, you got your letter.

So, what exactly is YOUR point about the article?


Read the thread. You'll figure it out, sooner or later.




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Old December 31st 06, 04:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
anon
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Default Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS

Juan, you really see yourself as a hero, don't you?

You performed competently under pressure in the normal course of your job.
Your failure to perform could have had dire circumstances. I can think of
dozens of jobs that place people in similar situations as a matter of
routine, not just once in a career.

I believe your story and find it interesting. That said, I can't see how it
is career-defining or portrays you as anything other than competent in your
job. I don't see any heroics or courage and in your telling of the story,
you don't really paint of picture of building pressure prior to resolution.

Strangely, you ask us to check out Marine records to corroborate your story,
but you don't really offer any specifics or even tell us what specific
military records might corroborate your story. You like to throw out
near-impossible assignments for the class, don't you?

Maybe, you can help.

How were such missions documented and in what detail were they documented?
What military documents describe these events? Did you receive any
decorations, letters of appreciation, letters of recognition? Are these
events described in your fitrep?

"In fact, check out the records of a medevac mission in 1981 involving a mom
who had just given birth and was hemorraging, and the preemie to which she
had just given
birth."

Can you be more specific, as far as date?


"Then check out the comments of the (at the time, double-digit midget)
Vietnam-vet crew chief on the aircraft that took them from Cherry Point to
the main hospital at Lejeune."

Juan, on what document might we find these comments? If you know where
these events are documented, why don't you tell us?














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Old December 31st 06, 05:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Dan[_2_]
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Default Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS

anon wrote:
Juan, you really see yourself as a hero, don't you?

You performed competently under pressure in the normal course of your job.
Your failure to perform could have had dire circumstances. I can think of
dozens of jobs that place people in similar situations as a matter of
routine, not just once in a career.

I believe your story and find it interesting. That said, I can't see how it
is career-defining or portrays you as anything other than competent in your
job. I don't see any heroics or courage and in your telling of the story,
you don't really paint of picture of building pressure prior to resolution.

Strangely, you ask us to check out Marine records to corroborate your story,
but you don't really offer any specifics or even tell us what specific
military records might corroborate your story. You like to throw out
near-impossible assignments for the class, don't you?

Maybe, you can help.

How were such missions documented and in what detail were they documented?
What military documents describe these events? Did you receive any
decorations, letters of appreciation, letters of recognition? Are these
events described in your fitrep?

"In fact, check out the records of a medevac mission in 1981 involving a mom
who had just given birth and was hemorraging, and the preemie to which she
had just given
birth."

Can you be more specific, as far as date?


"Then check out the comments of the (at the time, double-digit midget)
Vietnam-vet crew chief on the aircraft that took them from Cherry Point to
the main hospital at Lejeune."

Juan, on what document might we find these comments? If you know where
these events are documented, why don't you tell us?



The funny part is yawn admitted to being a screw up when he said he
never got a good conduct medal despite having served 4 years. I am
curious why he didn't get one. They are automatic every 3 years unless
his commander justifies in writing why he shouldn't get it. Poor boy
admitted to being a screw up and didn't even know it. Yawn, before you
tell us again you got an honourable discharge that doesn't mean you were
a good Marine or even good at your job. I have seen people in all
branches who just loaf through their hitch. The fact you felt the need
to brag about doing your job that one time tells me you were just
another skate.

Let's face it, yawn, you are just a manure salesman with a mouthful
of samples.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old December 31st 06, 01:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Scott[_1_]
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You're wasting your time. I asked hom the same thing. He gave me a
link to the article. Never would tell me what I was supposed to get
from the article. All I saw was his name in the article saying he did
his job well. Now he's a hero in the Marine Corp. Probably has a
statue at Cherry Point. Right in front of the women's latrine.

Scott



anon wrote:

Juan, you really see yourself as a hero, don't you?

You performed competently under pressure in the normal course of your job.
Your failure to perform could have had dire circumstances. I can think of
dozens of jobs that place people in similar situations as a matter of
routine, not just once in a career.

I believe your story and find it interesting. That said, I can't see how it
is career-defining or portrays you as anything other than competent in your
job. I don't see any heroics or courage and in your telling of the story,
you don't really paint of picture of building pressure prior to resolution.

Strangely, you ask us to check out Marine records to corroborate your story,
but you don't really offer any specifics or even tell us what specific
military records might corroborate your story. You like to throw out
near-impossible assignments for the class, don't you?

Maybe, you can help.

How were such missions documented and in what detail were they documented?
What military documents describe these events? Did you receive any
decorations, letters of appreciation, letters of recognition? Are these
events described in your fitrep?

"In fact, check out the records of a medevac mission in 1981 involving a mom
who had just given birth and was hemorraging, and the preemie to which she
had just given
birth."

Can you be more specific, as far as date?


"Then check out the comments of the (at the time, double-digit midget)
Vietnam-vet crew chief on the aircraft that took them from Cherry Point to
the main hospital at Lejeune."

Juan, on what document might we find these comments? If you know where
these events are documented, why don't you tell us?














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Old January 1st 07, 05:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Juan Jimenez[_1_]
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Default Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS


"anon" wrote in message
m...
Juan, you really see yourself as a hero, don't you?


Thank you for the kind words, coward.



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  #6  
Old December 31st 06, 01:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Scott[_1_]
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Default Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS



Juan Jimenez wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message
.. .

Ask them for what? To verify you were in the MC? That you did your job?
Yeah, it was a good thing that you did, no doubt, but it sounds just like
any other day in the Air Force.



LOL! Yeah, sure, that must be the story.


No, REALLY, what the hell do you want anybody to find by reading the
article? Instead of playing games and throwing out teasers, just tell
what it is that you want me to know. I'm not into stupid guessing
games. Spell it out. I read the article from the link you sent. I saw
you're name in print. BFD! Is that the only time you were ever in print?




I was in the Air Force and stationed at Keesler (Biloxi, MS) during
Hurricane Elena in 1985. (Yes, THAT sucked!). Anyhow, after the breeze
stopped (broke the wind measuring equipment at 125 MPH, so never did find
out how hard it blew), it was found that there was no power on the base
and our amateur radio repeater was thus off the air. Officials were
relying on it to bridge the gap in communications between Gulfport and
Pascagoula. So what did I do? I walked out to the street in front of my
dorm, found a wrecked car, lifted the hood and stole the battery. Hand
carried it about a half a mile to the radio club building and hooked it up
to the repeater and got it on the air (had to do a makeshift repair on the
antenna as well). Got a letter of commendation for "rising to the
occasion". I can scan a copy if you wish. I don't feel I went above and
beyond, but the base CO appreciated it enough to write a letter to our CO.
All that for a petty theft



So, the battery was your substitute for the kid? Hmm. Weird logic, but what
the heck, you got your letter.


Here's my logic. I did something to help out and I didn't view it as
any big deal. Now you come off as pompous with the snide attitude. How
do you know that by getting that comm link re-established, that no lives
may have been saved? Hell, even I don't know that. The point is, I
just did what needed to be done. So did you. You think you're a hero.
I don't view myself as a hero. I guess I'm just humble and you're not
(you can look up humility in the dictionary).


So, what exactly is YOUR point about the article?



Read the thread. You'll figure it out, sooner or later.


I guess I won't ever get it and you won't just come out and say it.
Makes me think you hope others won't get it and think you're a big hero
for what you must view as the one defining moment in your life. How
about those EMTs? They do everyday what you did once in your entire life.

I started out asking you about this and seriously was interested enough
in what you were trying to say. Now I could give a rat's ass less
because you couch your answers in riddles. One LAST chance to spell out
exactly what your point is...


Scott





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Old January 1st 07, 05:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Juan Jimenez[_1_]
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Default Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS


"Scott" wrote in message
.. .


Juan Jimenez wrote:
"Scott" wrote in message
.. .

Ask them for what? To verify you were in the MC? That you did your job?
Yeah, it was a good thing that you did, no doubt, but it sounds just like
any other day in the Air Force.



LOL! Yeah, sure, that must be the story.


No, REALLY, what the hell do you want anybody to find by reading the
article?


What article, Scott? Do you even have a clue what you're talking about? Can
you follow your own trains of thought? Who's on first?

Here's my logic. I did something to help out and I didn't view it as any
big deal. Now you come off as pompous with the snide attitude.


Which only says you're just another one of those who can't take what you
dish out. You go, boy.

I guess I won't ever get it


That much is clearly apparent.




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Old January 1st 07, 08:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Scott[_1_]
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You originally sent an email to this group telling us all to search for
SOES (circa 1979-1981 or some time close to that) on the Cherry Point
website. I did that, didn't find the article you referred to, asked
you, you checked and gave me a good link to the story and I read it.
So, back to my question (again)...what EXACTLY was it you wanted us to
see (besides a story that gives YOU a warm, fuzzy feeling)??? As for me
not being able to take what I dish out, I don't get that either. What
did I dish out to you? I just asked what you wanted me to
(specifically) get from the above mentioned article. I got what
transpired, I just wondered what was so extraordinary in there. I read
stuff like this in the paper everyday (people helping people). And, in
this case, it looks like you were a cog in the wheel. Did you help to
stop the woman's bleeding? Did you call to get an incubator for the
baby? You fixed a wire so the ship could fly. The pilot flew the bird.
The doctor at the other end saved the waoman and child. Happy ending.
What more is there. I want to hear it from YOU, that's all! Again, I
guess I will NEVER get it and you don't have the common courtesy to give
me what I have repeatedly asked for.

Scott


Juan Jimenez wrote:

"Scott" wrote in message
.. .


Juan Jimenez wrote:

"Scott" wrote in message
t...


Ask them for what? To verify you were in the MC? That you did your job?
Yeah, it was a good thing that you did, no doubt, but it sounds just like
any other day in the Air Force.


LOL! Yeah, sure, that must be the story.


No, REALLY, what the hell do you want anybody to find by reading the
article?



What article, Scott? Do you even have a clue what you're talking about? Can
you follow your own trains of thought? Who's on first?


Here's my logic. I did something to help out and I didn't view it as any
big deal. Now you come off as pompous with the snide attitude.



Which only says you're just another one of those who can't take what you
dish out. You go, boy.


I guess I won't ever get it



That much is clearly apparent.




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Old January 2nd 07, 01:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
BobR
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According to Jaun's version, it was a one man show and he was the show.
Everyone else were just bit players. What I found most interesting
about Jaun's account was how he coundn't just recount what he
accomplished but had to try and make everyone else in the story look
stupid.


Scott wrote:
You originally sent an email to this group telling us all to search for
SOES (circa 1979-1981 or some time close to that) on the Cherry Point
website. I did that, didn't find the article you referred to, asked
you, you checked and gave me a good link to the story and I read it.
So, back to my question (again)...what EXACTLY was it you wanted us to
see (besides a story that gives YOU a warm, fuzzy feeling)??? As for me
not being able to take what I dish out, I don't get that either. What
did I dish out to you? I just asked what you wanted me to
(specifically) get from the above mentioned article. I got what
transpired, I just wondered what was so extraordinary in there. I read
stuff like this in the paper everyday (people helping people). And, in
this case, it looks like you were a cog in the wheel. Did you help to
stop the woman's bleeding? Did you call to get an incubator for the
baby? You fixed a wire so the ship could fly. The pilot flew the bird.
The doctor at the other end saved the waoman and child. Happy ending.
What more is there. I want to hear it from YOU, that's all! Again, I
guess I will NEVER get it and you don't have the common courtesy to give
me what I have repeatedly asked for.

Scott


Juan Jimenez wrote:

"Scott" wrote in message
.. .


Juan Jimenez wrote:

"Scott" wrote in message
t...


Ask them for what? To verify you were in the MC? That you did your job?
Yeah, it was a good thing that you did, no doubt, but it sounds just like
any other day in the Air Force.


LOL! Yeah, sure, that must be the story.

No, REALLY, what the hell do you want anybody to find by reading the
article?



What article, Scott? Do you even have a clue what you're talking about? Can
you follow your own trains of thought? Who's on first?


Here's my logic. I did something to help out and I didn't view it as any
big deal. Now you come off as pompous with the snide attitude.



Which only says you're just another one of those who can't take what you
dish out. You go, boy.


I guess I won't ever get it



That much is clearly apparent.





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Old January 2nd 07, 03:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Dan[_2_]
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BobR wrote:
According to Jaun's version, it was a one man show and he was the show.
Everyone else were just bit players. What I found most interesting
about Jaun's account was how he coundn't just recount what he
accomplished but had to try and make everyone else in the story look
stupid.


The funny part is he doesn't understand he was doing what he was
hired to do.

Our C-130s had outlets for iron lungs. Guess who got called when
someone in an iron lung had to be moved. It wasn't our primary job, but
we did it when called to do so. None of us bragged about it. I don't
even recall how many times it happened. This was in the 1980s in case
anyone actually cares.

Now, enough badmouthing yawn. It's time to say something nice about
him. I will start by saying yawn is very good at two things: he can
always be used as a bad example and he is always good for a laugh.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
 




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