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Old January 1st 07, 04:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Default GNS 430W vs GNS 480

Mike Adams wrote:

Sam Spade wrote:

Go with the 430W.



I was advocating the 430W in the context of the original poster.

Actually, the 530W is a whole lot better, just like the 530/500 is a
whole lot better than the 430/400.

That is why those who have the bucks stack a 530 over a 430.

As to no airway database, I find that a minor issue in a slow light
aircraft. You don't have to build the entire airway on the fly.
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Old January 1st 07, 06:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Roy N5804F
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I have to agree with Sam.
You really should include the 530 in your analysis to determine which unit
to install.
I understand that cost is a major factor but you might just find that the
additional features, screen size & resolution put the 530 ahead of the 430
or 480.
[The 480 has the smallest screen area of all 3 units]
I went through the same dilemma 6 months ago, the 530 came out on top for my
mission [without WAAS at that time]
I took a deep breath, called the bank and don't regret a single dollar of
the additional cost [Or the cost to now upgrade it to WAAS]
Although you are not currently interested in interfacing the purchase with
some of the other equipment available, this is also an area that should be
evaluated closely so you are aware of the limitations of all units.
I also said I was not interested in interfacing beyond roll steering, that
opinion is changing daily as I consider now what other equipment I might now
add to the panel. Never be sure that your finished !!

I am also a firm believer that Garmin will not invest further in developing
the 480 beyond its current ability.

Roy




"Sam Spade" wrote in message
...
Mike Adams wrote:

Sam Spade wrote:

Go with the 430W.


I was advocating the 430W in the context of the original poster.

Actually, the 530W is a whole lot better, just like the 530/500 is a whole
lot better than the 430/400.

That is why those who have the bucks stack a 530 over a 430.

As to no airway database, I find that a minor issue in a slow light
aircraft. You don't have to build the entire airway on the fly.




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Old January 1st 07, 10:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
JD
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Default GNS 430W vs GNS 480

There is a Version 3.0 of the firmware in progress for the 480, Garmin
AT is and will continue development and support for the 480.

Also,
The 430/530 ARE NOT FAA certified for PRIMARY ENROUTE navigation. The
480 is.

Go with the 480.

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Old January 1st 07, 11:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Default GNS 430W vs GNS 480

JD wrote:

There is a Version 3.0 of the firmware in progress for the 480, Garmin
AT is and will continue development and support for the 480.

Also,
The 430/530 ARE NOT FAA certified for PRIMARY ENROUTE navigation. The
480 is.

Go with the 480.


That will change with an update very soon.

The 480 is a dead product.
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Old January 1st 07, 11:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
JD
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On Jan 1, 5:10 pm, Sam Spade wrote:
JD wrote:
There is a Version 3.0 of the firmware in progress for the 480, Garmin
AT is and will continue development and support for the 480.


Also,
The 430/530 ARE NOT FAA certified for PRIMARY ENROUTE navigation. The
480 is.


Go with the 480.That will change with an update very soon.


The 480 is a dead product.


All products eventually become "dead", I'd bet that the 430 dies before
the 480. The 480 is a much newer design than the 430/530 and should
have a longer life than the older technologies.

But, only Garmin knows for sure, but they spent a lot of money to
acquire Apollo and the techonology/engineers that the 480 was built on.

It wouldn't make much buisness sense to now kill that product after the
millions(?) they spent to acquire it.

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Old January 2nd 07, 02:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Default GNS 430W vs GNS 480

JD wrote:

.

But, only Garmin knows for sure, but they spent a lot of money to
acquire Apollo and the techonology/engineers that the 480 was built on.

It wouldn't make much buisness sense to now kill that product after the
millions(?) they spent to acquire it.

It was done to kill the competition.
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Old January 2nd 07, 01:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Ron Natalie
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Default GNS 430W vs GNS 480

Sam Spade wrote:
JD wrote:

.

But, only Garmin knows for sure, but they spent a lot of money to
acquire Apollo and the techonology/engineers that the 480 was built on.

It wouldn't make much buisness sense to now kill that product after the
millions(?) they spent to acquire it.

It was done to kill the competition.


Actually, I think it was to get a WAAS product two years before
the 430 was ready and to pick up all the work that UPSAT had done
with ADS-B and to pick up the SL-30/40 non-gps com units that they
didn't have an answer for.

They've already rolled forward the MX-20 into the GMX200 for those
who aren't going to replace the enitre panel for the 600/900x/1000
line.
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Old January 1st 07, 11:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Roy Smith
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Default GNS 430W vs GNS 480

In article .com,
"JD" wrote:

There is a Version 3.0 of the firmware in progress for the 480, Garmin
AT is and will continue development and support for the 480.


Do you know what changes the 3.0 software will have?


The 430/530 ARE NOT FAA certified for PRIMARY ENROUTE navigation. The
480 is.


Is that true even with the WAAS upgrade? I thought the thing that made the
480 primary en-route-capable was the WAAS?
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Old January 1st 07, 11:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
JD
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Default GNS 430W vs GNS 480



On Jan 1, 5:16 pm, Roy Smith wrote:
In article .com,

"JD" wrote:
There is a Version 3.0 of the firmware in progress for the 480, Garmin
AT is and will continue development and support for the 480.Do you know what changes the 3.0 software will have?


The 430/530 ARE NOT FAA certified for PRIMARY ENROUTE navigation. The
480 is.Is that true even with the WAAS upgrade? I thought the thing that made the

480 primary en-route-capable was the WAAS?


The 480 has always been certified for Primary Enroute Navigate, it's
the 530/430 that is not, even with the WAAS upgrades for the 530/430.
But as Sam points out, they will be with a new release of the 530/430
firmware.

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Old January 1st 07, 11:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Roy N5804F
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Default GNS 430W vs GNS 480


JD


Why is a new version of the software is required and what changes it will
introduce ?
When did Garmin announced that they will "continue development and support
for the 480" ?
What do all the aircraft fitted with only dual 430/530's use for primary
enroute navigation under instrument rules ?

Roy

"JD" wrote in message
oups.com...
There is a Version 3.0 of the firmware in progress for the 480, Garmin
AT is and will continue development and support for the 480.

Also,
The 430/530 ARE NOT FAA certified for PRIMARY ENROUTE navigation. The
480 is.

Go with the 480.





 




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