GNS 430W vs GNS 480

"JD" wrote in message
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On Jan 1, 5:39 pm, "JD" wrote:
480 is more capable (has holds, etc), but the 430 is *MUCH* easier
to use. If you are a computer geek, go with the 480. If you want easy
of flying, go with the 430. If you think you may want to fly G1000
someday, go with the 430 because the nav side is right from a 430.

-Robert, CFIII tend to disagree with Robert, I think the 480 has a more
intutive
user interface.

"Ad-hoc" holds: You can define a hold point at any user waypoint or
database point. Specify the leg lenght in mins or miles/Kilomiles
(grin), direction of turns, etc.. The 480/GPSS will drive the hold for
you.

And, also, it'll tell you what kind of entry to use, teardrop, direct,
etc..


As does the 530.

I have a real problem with your statement that the 430/530 is not enroute
certified. They are all that is fitted into the bird I fly we fly IFR all
the time.

Roy N5804F wrote:



I have a real problem with your statement that the 430/530 is not enroute
certified. They are all that is fitted into the bird I fly we fly IFR all
the time.


It is so certified. This really gets complicated, because the FAA has
created a moving target with all their changes.

You can use your 530 as sole means by doing an en route RAIM prediction
for the route.

Once the 530W has the update, you can use it as sole means without
taking any action for domestic flight.

The latest version of the 530 without WAAS, is approved for sole means
for oceanic because of FDE (fault detection exclusion).

The FAA has never really taken a firm position on what is primary for en
route, because the NAS is still predicated on VOR. This is very much an
FAA problem of being a horse and buggy aviation agency. ;-)

Thanks Sam for the detailed explanation.

We have the very latest 530 without WAAS so it seems I am all set to cross
the Atlantic in the Archer.
Now when I fit the extra fuel tank and depart 300 lbs over gross weight am I
still legal to use the 530 as sole means of ocean navigation on the way home
to the England :-)

Thanks again,

Roy

"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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Roy N5804F wrote:



I have a real problem with your statement that the 430/530 is not enroute
certified. They are all that is fitted into the bird I fly we fly IFR all
the time.

It is so certified. This really gets complicated, because the FAA has
created a moving target with all their changes.

You can use your 530 as sole means by doing an en route RAIM prediction
for the route.

Once the 530W has the update, you can use it as sole means without taking
any action for domestic flight.

The latest version of the 530 without WAAS, is approved for sole means for
oceanic because of FDE (fault detection exclusion).

The FAA has never really taken a firm position on what is primary for en
route, because the NAS is still predicated on VOR. This is very much an
FAA problem of being a horse and buggy aviation agency. ;-)

Roy N5804F wrote:


Thanks Sam for the detailed explanation.

We have the very latest 530 without WAAS so it seems I am all set to cross
the Atlantic in the Archer.
Now when I fit the extra fuel tank and depart 300 lbs over gross weight am I
still legal to use the 530 as sole means of ocean navigation on the way home
to the England :-)

Thanks again,

Roy

So long as your 530 has the firmware version that gives it FDE, you are
set for oceanic.