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Old January 3rd 07, 02:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Roy N5804F
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Does the 430 WAAS unit fly the entry procedure?


If the sim for the GNS430W is to be believed, yes it will, assuming of
course it is coupled with an appropriate AP.

--
Peter


I am really interested to hear how many of us have actually been asked to
fly a Holding pattern by ATC in the recent past ?

Roy



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Old January 3rd 07, 02:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Peter R.
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Roy N5804F wrote:

I am really interested to hear how many of us have actually been asked to
fly a Holding pattern by ATC in the recent past ?


It is more common than you think, assuming you routinely fly IFR to
uncontrolled airports (at least in the Northeast US). While certainly not
a lot, I have been asked twice over the year I was commuting to Dunkirk,
NY, to momentarily hold due to another IFR aircraft ahead of me flying the
approach.

Additionally, on frequency I have heard holding instructions go out to
every aircraft (air carriers and GA alike) approaching the big three NY
airports when a line of t-storms was about to move through.

The point being that the more you fly IFR, the more likely you will
encounter a request to hold.

--
Peter
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Old January 3rd 07, 03:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Peter R. wrote:


Additionally, on frequency I have heard holding instructions go out to
every aircraft (air carriers and GA alike) approaching the big three NY
airports when a line of t-storms was about to move through.

The point being that the more you fly IFR, the more likely you will
encounter a request to hold.


Airliners sometimes hold for an hour, or more on STARS serving JFK, EWR,
and LGA. Holding west of Boston is very common, too.
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Old January 3rd 07, 03:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Roy N5804F wrote:



Does the 430 WAAS unit fly the entry procedure?


If the sim for the GNS430W is to be believed, yes it will, assuming of
course it is coupled with an appropriate AP.

--
Peter



I am really interested to hear how many of us have actually been asked to
fly a Holding pattern by ATC in the recent past ?

Roy



The holding pattern that the Garmin 400/500 have are flown a lot and
without ATC request. They are the course-reversal hold (known as "HIL"
or hold-in-lieu-of procedure turn) and the missed approach holding pattern.

These holds are far more prevelant today as RNAV procedures increase in
ron-radar areas.
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Old January 3rd 07, 07:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Stan Prevost[_1_]
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"Roy N5804F" wrote in message
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I am really interested to hear how many of us have actually been asked to
fly a Holding pattern by ATC in the recent past ?


Excluding HIL-type course reversals in approaches, I have had to hold at
least twice in IMC during the last year or so, always due to more than one
aircraft trying to get into and out of the same untowered fields. And I
hear it over the radio fairly frequently, for one to hold as another
completes the approach.


 




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