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Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC



 
 
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Old January 3rd 07, 11:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Darkwing
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Mxsmanic,

And who would, in a simulation?


Air traffic controllers.


Then that would be a very bad simulation. Ah, more and more differences
to real life...

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Mxsmanic, Chief Pilot - Circle Jerk Airlines.

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Old January 4th 07, 12:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote

Mxsmanic, Chief Pilot - Circle Jerk Airlines.


He doesn't care about sex, remember?

Personally, I think he has had his balls chopped off.
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Old January 4th 07, 01:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote

Mxsmanic, Chief Pilot - Circle Jerk Airlines.


He doesn't care about sex, remember?

Personally, I think he has had his balls chopped off.
--
Jim in NC


The following is pasted from Mxsmanic's initial post in this thread:

------pasted article begins-------

I fly from KLAX to KLAS, using the FMC to handle most of the flight.
With the routing I put in, the FMC decides on some default altitudes
and includes required altitudes for the arrival and departure
procedures I select. Part of what it does is to create a descent
schedule from the nominal cruise altitude to the arrival procedure.

So I leave KLAX and my last explicit instruction from ATC is "climb
and maintain FL290," which is my programmed and filed cruise altitude.
Now, my question is this: If the FMC has a programmed descent in its
route, do I let the FMC start the descent where it sees fit, or do I
force the aircraft to maintain FL290 until ATC explicitly clears me
for my own navigation or for a lower altitude? And if ATC's last
instruction had simply been "resume own navigation" or "proceed as
filed," would that mean that I'd be free to begin the descent whenever
the FMC (or I) decides it's best?

-------remainder snipped-------

There is obvious potential for enterainment in this simulation!

But there's mo when last we read, he was simulating a B58.
(No, not that one, the kind with two recips... )

Gotta' go ... I hear the beer calling from the fridge ...

Peter bfg


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Old January 4th 07, 08:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC

Peter Dohm writes:

There is obvious potential for enterainment in this simulation!


I agree. But it is a learning experience as well, and good practice.

But there's mo when last we read, he was simulating a B58.


A Baron 58, yes. One tail number is the Baron, the other is a Boeing
Business Jet 2 (the private-aircraft version of a 737-800).
Obviously, I was flying the latter when I was having trouble dealing
with the FMC, as the Baron is not so equipped.

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