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Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC



 
 
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Old January 4th 07, 09:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Judah writes:

How do you know?


The honest ones admit it to me.


Spurious conclusion. Those who agree with you are honest, those who
don't are not?

Either way, your judgment of realism is based on anything -but- your
own experience, and you are left to sort the opinions of others. Your
opinion that MSFS is realistic, or unrealistic, has no basis in any
-fact- that you have ascertained, since those... lemme count... yep,
zero is the total.
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Old January 4th 07, 10:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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gpsman writes:

Spurious conclusion. Those who agree with you are honest, those who
don't are not?


No. The honest ones admit it; the dishonest or disingenuous ones
argue about it endlessly.

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Old January 5th 07, 02:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC

Mxsmanic wrote in
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No. The honest ones admit it; the dishonest or disingenuous ones
argue about it endlessly.


How do you know who is honest and who is lying?
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Old January 5th 07, 08:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC

Judah writes:

How do you know who is honest and who is lying?


By knowing their overall personalities.

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Old January 5th 07, 06:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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How do you know that they aren't just agreeing with you in the hope that you
will go away? Seems much more plausible based on your current performance.

Transpose mxsmanic with moron to reach the whining, live in the dark,
trolling buffoon.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Judah writes:

How do you know who is honest and who is lying?


By knowing their overall personalities.

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Old January 5th 07, 09:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC

Barney Rubble writes:

How do you know that they aren't just agreeing with you in the hope that you
will go away? Seems much more plausible based on your current performance.


I know they aren't stupid.

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Old January 6th 07, 12:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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I know they aren't stupid.


How do you know this?
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Old January 5th 07, 09:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Barney Rubble" wrote in
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How do you know that they aren't just agreeing with you in the hope
that you will go away? Seems much more plausible based on your current
performance.


Only way the troll will go away is for us not to answer him.....

Allen
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Old January 5th 07, 04:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim
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Mxsmanic wrote: groups adjusted
gpsman writes:

Spurious conclusion. Those who agree with you are honest, those who
don't are not?


No. The honest ones admit it; the dishonest or disingenuous ones
argue about it endlessly.


Spurious conclusion. Your conclusion is identical to that you made
previously: those who agree with you are correct and honest; those who
disagree know you are correct, but are liars. All determined while you
lack any basis to determine who might be right or wrong.

If you were as smart as you seem to believe you might on your own
correctly assume a cheap game simulator approaches realism, but that's
all it does, or can do.

Your incessant crossposting to irrelevant groups is an obvious
indicator that you are a k00k... and the time you spend here arguing
with those who know of which they speak might be better spent
accumulating the income that would allow you to get an hour of air
under your ass so that you might form your conclusions via your own
experience.
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Old January 5th 07, 07:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim
Mxsmanic
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Default Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC

gpsman writes:

Your conclusion is identical to that you made
previously: those who agree with you are correct and honest; those who
disagree know you are correct, but are liars.


That was not my conclusion.

Pilots I know to be honest have agreed that MSFS is useful for
training and a reasonable simulation of flight. Pilots I know to be
insecure blowhards have insisted that it is neither. I have noted the
correlation.

If you were as smart as you seem to believe you might on your own
correctly assume a cheap game simulator approaches realism, but that's
all it does, or can do.


All simulators merely approach realism in a strict sense, but if the
part they simulate is the part you want or need, that's all that
matters.

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