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Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC



 
 
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  #141  
Old January 5th 07, 10:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Sam Spade
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Ross writes:


Nope, this was the real multi million $ American Airline simulator in
Ft. Worth Texas at their training center. I do not suspect they you
MSFS.



Sometimes it can be surprising what runs on the back end.

In those $10 million simulators it sure as Hell ain't windows.
  #142  
Old January 5th 07, 10:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim
Peter Dohm
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Your incessant crossposting to irrelevant groups is an obvious
indicator that you are a k00k... and the time you spend here arguing
with those who know of which they speak might be better spent
accumulating the income that would allow you to get an hour of air
under your ass so that you might form your conclusions via your own
experience.


Naw ... that would ruin the little schmeckel's enjoyment of the sim.


  #143  
Old January 5th 07, 10:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Sam Spade
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Sam Spade writes:


In the context of aviation the purpose of simulation is to faithfully
duplicate the aircraft flight deck, panels and systems, motion, and
outside visual references so that pilot qualification in the simulator
translates into pilot qualification in the aircraft.



No. Simulation reproduces specific aspects of the real world with
specific levels of accuracy and realism. No simulation reproduces
everything perfectly. Some simulators reproduce certain things
perfectly. There is no one size that fits all, nor is it necessary
for all simulators to reproduce everything.

Did I say "perfectly?"

How much Appendix D simulator training and proficiency checks have you had?
  #144  
Old January 5th 07, 10:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Gig 601XL Builder
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Default Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC

Mxsmanic wrote:
TxSrv writes:

All planes, and various propulsion systems, react in the
same way to air density. The program itself could handle
this, needing only some specifics from the model file and
which it does supply for certain things. Whatever. Of the
zillion FS planes out there for download, point me toward a
normally-aspirated, piston aircraft, with certificated HP in
the model file, and which isn't a real hoot when slewed up
into the flight levels.


Since you cannot test the real aircraft that high, you have no way of
knowing whether the simulation is accurate or not.



To all of you R.A.P., R.A.I. and R.A.S. regulars out there that take up for
this little twit please read the above and rethink your position. If you
still think he asks logical questions and makes only reasoned statements
please list you name below.


  #145  
Old January 5th 07, 10:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Gig 601XL Builder
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Mxsmanic wrote:

MSFS includes a glider. I have no glider experience so I cannot
comment on its realism.



POST OF THE MONTH.


  #146  
Old January 5th 07, 10:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mark Hansen
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On 01/05/07 14:15, Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
TxSrv writes:

All planes, and various propulsion systems, react in the
same way to air density. The program itself could handle
this, needing only some specifics from the model file and
which it does supply for certain things. Whatever. Of the
zillion FS planes out there for download, point me toward a
normally-aspirated, piston aircraft, with certificated HP in
the model file, and which isn't a real hoot when slewed up
into the flight levels.


Since you cannot test the real aircraft that high, you have no way of
knowing whether the simulation is accurate or not.



To all of you R.A.P., R.A.I. and R.A.S. regulars out there that take up for
this little twit please read the above and rethink your position. If you
still think he asks logical questions and makes only reasoned statements
please list you name below.




Well, I just laughed when I saw that statement. But, I've seen so may
like that from him that it's just the same old thing.

Still, it's been clear to me for some time that he's not here for
the exchange of information, but to disrupt this board (among other
things) - and he's keeps getting plenty of help ;-\
  #147  
Old January 5th 07, 10:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Newps
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Default Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC



Sam Spade wrote:
Newps wrote:



Mxsmanic wrote:


Uh, gee, Einstein, a real rudder DOES control flight path.




Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.




There is never a case where it doesn't change flight path.



Not so. When an engine fails on a multi, a lot of rudder is required.
Skillfully done, the application of a lot of rudder is mandatory to
maintain the desired flight path.





Yep, thus changing the flight path from the centered position.
  #148  
Old January 5th 07, 10:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Newps
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Newps writes:


You still haven't listed one time when the rudder does not change flight
path.



A forward slip.



BZZT, try again.


  #149  
Old January 5th 07, 10:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Newps
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Newps writes:


There is never a case where it doesn't change flight path.



Landing in a crosswind.



Steeeeeerike two.


  #150  
Old January 5th 07, 10:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Alexey Goldin
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Amazing. Anyone knows about possibility for killfile in Google groups?


Mxsmanic wrote:
Alexey Goldin writes:

When I came back, I thanked her for saving me from possibly broken arm
or leg (no kidding) and unpleasant time spent in hospital, never mind
bent aluminium.


She could have accomplished the same without shouting or swearing.

--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.


 




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