Good weather -- flying more?

Mxsmanic wrote:

Jay Honeck writes:

I suppose it's a habit thing: It's January, dammit, and folks just
don't expect to be flying -- so they're just NOT? Dunno -- but it's
sure been wonderful, flying in shirtsleeves in January...

You'll pay for it when it's 115 degrees in July. The world is getting
warmer.

That is just a simulated weather forecast. In Colorado we have had
blizzards, unusual snow amounts and lots of cold. Global warming
fanatics should look at global temperatures over the last million
years or so (certainly hundreds of thousands of years) then shut up.

Ron Lee

Ron Lee wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:


Jay Honeck writes:


I suppose it's a habit thing: It's January, dammit, and folks just
don't expect to be flying -- so they're just NOT? Dunno -- but it's
sure been wonderful, flying in shirtsleeves in January...

You'll pay for it when it's 115 degrees in July. The world is getting
warmer.


That is just a simulated weather forecast. In Colorado we have had
blizzards, unusual snow amounts and lots of cold. Global warming
fanatics should look at global temperatures over the last million
years or so (certainly hundreds of thousands of years) then shut up.

I'm with you. What we are seeing now isn't even a blip on the scale of
past climate cycles.

Matt

Global warming IS happening, but it is solar system wide.
Permafrost on Mars is melting and fresh signs of water are
flowing out the side of craters. See www.nasa.gov for
recent pictures of Mars or Google for "Mars water." NASA
also reports that the Moons of Jupiter and even Pluto are
having heating. I don't think it is caused by SUVs or even
cow gases.

But Al Gore can't get elected complaining about God or just
natural solar cycles.


"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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| Ron Lee wrote:
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| Mxsmanic wrote:
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| Jay Honeck writes:
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| I suppose it's a habit thing: It's January, dammit,
and folks just
| don't expect to be flying -- so they're just NOT?
Dunno -- but it's
| sure been wonderful, flying in shirtsleeves in
January...
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| You'll pay for it when it's 115 degrees in July. The
world is getting
| warmer.
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| That is just a simulated weather forecast. In Colorado
we have had
| blizzards, unusual snow amounts and lots of cold.
Global warming
| fanatics should look at global temperatures over the
last million
| years or so (certainly hundreds of thousands of years)
then shut up.
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| I'm with you. What we are seeing now isn't even a blip on
the scale of
| past climate cycles.
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| Matt

In article ,
"Jim Macklin" wrote:

But Al Gore can't get elected complaining about God or just
natural solar cycles.

feh - Gore can't get elected. period.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Agreed. It is a "global" manifestation of the "me" generation. The world
revolves around "me," and its temperature depends on "you." Nothing but
self-importance and arrogance.

The Vikings maintained vinyards in Greenland during the Medieval Warm
Period. Perhaps CO2 can raise world temperature, but if so, what caused the
MWP? Was it CO2- if so where did it come from? Was the temperature because
of increased solar activity? If so, do we see increased solar activity
now? If so, would the increased solar activity alone account for any
observed increase in temperature? If so, why is there such hysteria over
burning carbon?

Don't get me wrong- I hate waste of any sort. We must be conservative of our
resources. We desperately need to move from an economy based upon oil, but
for reasons which have nothing to do with "global warming."

I'm with you. What we are seeing now isn't even a blip on the scale of
past climate cycles.

Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
Ron Lee wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:


Jay Honeck writes:


I suppose it's a habit thing: It's January, dammit, and folks just
don't expect to be flying -- so they're just NOT? Dunno -- but it's
sure been wonderful, flying in shirtsleeves in January...


You'll pay for it when it's 115 degrees in July. The world is getting
warmer.



That is just a simulated weather forecast. In Colorado we have had
blizzards, unusual snow amounts and lots of cold. Global warming
fanatics should look at global temperatures over the last million
years or so (certainly hundreds of thousands of years) then shut up.


I'm with you. What we are seeing now isn't even a blip on the scale of
past climate cycles.

Matt
I think the speed at which the warming is taking place is faster (says
my daughter the meterologist). I personally wouldn't mind a fewer
degrees warmer and beach front in PA.

Margy

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 15:42:27 -0800, Ron Lee wrote
(in article ):

Mxsmanic wrote:

Jay Honeck writes:

I suppose it's a habit thing: It's January, dammit, and folks just
don't expect to be flying -- so they're just NOT? Dunno -- but it's
sure been wonderful, flying in shirtsleeves in January...

You'll pay for it when it's 115 degrees in July. The world is getting
warmer.

That is just a simulated weather forecast. In Colorado we have had
blizzards, unusual snow amounts and lots of cold. Global warming
fanatics should look at global temperatures over the last million
years or so (certainly hundreds of thousands of years) then shut up.

Yep, a single year is suddenly global warming upon us. Not one reputable
scientist would agree, but certain media airheads (probably the same ones who
think the winter solstice is the first "official" day of winter) say it
anyway. What good are facts when you are on a crusade?

The current warm winter on the eastern seaboard and the cold weather in the
west should be expected whenever we have an El Nino. Last year we had a La
Nina, the exact opposite of an El Nino, causing a few extra typhoons in the
Philippines. That country likely will get milder weather this year.

Greenland once was, well, green in the tenth century when Eric the Red
discovered it. Oranges grew in Ireland then. The Medieval Warming Period
ended with the Little Ice Age, which continued until the 19th century. Global
warming and cooling and have far more correlation with sunspot activity than
they have with anything else.

Nevertheless, it is unreasonable to assume that CO2 levels are not having a
significant effect on global warming. The question is, if we were somehow
able to stop humanity from dumping any more CO2 into the atmosphere, would
global warming stop? It seems unlikely. We are once again entering a period
of increased solar activity. The best we could probably hope for would be to
slow global warming slightly, shorten the warming period, or reduce its
effect. But we could not stop it, even if every human being left the planet
right this very instant.

C J Campbell schrieb:

Greenland once was, well, green in the tenth century when Eric the Red
discovered it. Oranges grew in Ireland then. The Medieval Warming Period

The common argument. It's true. But it prooves exactly the opposite of
what you think it does.

The point is, look at the climate then and what the effect of a tiny
change was. And then look at the much bigger climate change now. Now try
to think of the effects to be expected by this big change now when
already such a tiny change then caused oranges to grow in Ireland.

Stefan

In article ,
Stefan wrote:

Greenland once was, well, green in the tenth century when Eric the Red
discovered it. Oranges grew in Ireland then. The Medieval Warming Period

The common argument. It's true. But it prooves exactly the opposite of
what you think it does.

The point is, look at the climate then and what the effect of a tiny
change was.

Was it cause and effect, or just correlation?

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Bob Noel schrieb:

Greenland once was, well, green in the tenth century when Eric the Red
discovered it. Oranges grew in Ireland then.

The point is, look at the climate then and what the effect of a tiny
change was.

Was it cause and effect, or just correlation?

What? That oranges grew in Ireland when it was warmer? I'm *sure* it was
cause and effect. P