Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC

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A Lieberma wrote:

Hmmm, aren't all electronics stowed below 10,000 feet.

PORTABLE electronics. If they shut off the aircraft-installed radios
below 10,000, it would make communications with the tower a little
difficult. :-)

Buck Murdock wrote in news:nobody-
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PORTABLE electronics. If they shut off the aircraft-installed radios
below 10,000, it would make communications with the tower a little
difficult. :-)

Good point. Guess they better at least leave the radios on until they hear
they have been cleared to land..... *big smile*

What I meant to say was that I thought that all headphones must be off
below 10,000 feet for the ability to hear instructions.

A Lieberma writes:

What I meant to say was that I thought that all headphones must be off
below 10,000 feet for the ability to hear instructions.

Safety announcements can override all audio channels, so it isn't
necessary to take headphones off to hear them.

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Safety announcements can override all audio channels, so it isn't
necessary to take headphones off to hear them.

Yep, typical response of a person who never stepped into a plane.

Ya know, safety announcements just may have to be made if something
catastropic happens to the electrial system and flight attendence have to
bark out orders using their own voices. I.E evacutation orders.

Allen

A Lieberma writes:

Yep, typical response of a person who never stepped into a plane.

No, typical response of someone who has actually looked at the comm
stack in a commercial airliner.

Ya know, safety announcements just may have to be made if something
catastropic happens to the electrial system and flight attendence have to
bark out orders using their own voices. I.E evacutation orders.

Yes, but not every announcement is an evacuation order. Announcements
can be made that override all audio channels.

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Ya know, safety announcements just may have to be made if something
catastropic happens to the electrial system and flight attendence
have to bark out orders using their own voices. I.E evacutation
orders.

Yes, but not every announcement is an evacuation order. Announcements
can be made that override all audio channels.

Yep, a response from a person who never stepped into a plane.

Reeeeeeeed carefully above.

Better yet, pull the plug to your computer and make an announcment over
your radio stack and see just how many of your imaginary passengers will
hear your announcement.

Allen

A Lieberma wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
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I had a similar experience on a United flight into Little Rock AR a
few years ago. I was listening to the channel while we were on final
and the tower calls "United 456, GO AROUND GO AROUND, Aircraft on the
runway." Before the second "Go Around" had been called the engines
got real loud. The tower then told the Baron to clear the active,
contact ground and call the tower at XXX-XXXX when able.

We were own very short final. And I have no doubt the pilot saw the
runway incurrtion at the same time the tower did.

Hmmm, aren't all electronics stowed below 10,000 feet. I would have
thought that all audio and movie channels would be turned off by the
captain, especially short final?

Allen

The audio channels where on during this flight. I would assume that the
audio system in airlines would be certified for in-flight use. Since I got
an I-Pod I haven't listened to the audio they provide but back then the only
time you couldn't hear the audio channels was when the crew override kicked
in.