Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC

"Kev" wrote in message
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Buck Murdock wrote:
United is the only airline I've ever heard of that does the
ATC-through-the-audio-system thing. I know for sure that Continental
doesn't.

I'm pretty sure another airline had the ATC channel for a while in the
90s, but not any more. Cameras are another deal...

American used to show the view out front on takeoff on its TV screens,
until after that DC-10 crash in Chicago, 1979. Rumors say they had to
pay extra for the pain and suffering caused by the passengers seeing
their own doom.

Personally, I can't imagine much more pain and suffering beyond the
realization that you are knife-edge (and still rolling) in a DC10...

I can't remember what airline I was on to Copenhagen a few years ago,
but you could use your personal monitor control to see views both out
front and looking straight down.

Flew Egypt Air 777 to Cairo and it had a forward-looking camera on the nose
gear. Cool view on a long final approach to land.

Jay B

Jay Beckman wrote:
"Kev" wrote in message
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American used to show the view out front on takeoff on its TV screens,
until after that DC-10 crash in Chicago, 1979. Rumors say they had to
pay extra for the pain and suffering caused by the passengers seeing
their own doom.

Personally, I can't imagine much more pain and suffering beyond the
realization that you are knife-edge (and still rolling) in a DC10...

Yeah, no kidding, but to lawyers it's a big deal. Some states allow
suing for the pain and suffering that goes between the incident and
death.

So apparently the amount of time that someone is consciously
terrorized, can be a major factor in death (or for that matter, life if
they make it) compensation. If the insurance company can prove that
everyone was knocked unconcious, then there's far less non-pecuniary
damages allowed than if the passengers were awake... during a 30,000
foot fall, for example.

This kind of compensation doesn't apply over international ocean, due
to the Death on the High Seas act.

IANAL, Kev

Laws do vary State by State, for instance the Devlin creep in MO will
not be arraigned until later in the week, according to NBC's Brian
Williams. In many (most) States it is the next day.

Have a great one!

Bush



On 12 Jan 2007 12:48:35 -0800, "Kev" wrote:

Jay Beckman wrote:
"Kev" wrote in message
oups.com...
American used to show the view out front on takeoff on its TV screens,
until after that DC-10 crash in Chicago, 1979. Rumors say they had to
pay extra for the pain and suffering caused by the passengers seeing
their own doom.

Personally, I can't imagine much more pain and suffering beyond the
realization that you are knife-edge (and still rolling) in a DC10...

Yeah, no kidding, but to lawyers it's a big deal. Some states allow
suing for the pain and suffering that goes between the incident and
death.

So apparently the amount of time that someone is consciously
terrorized, can be a major factor in death (or for that matter, life if
they make it) compensation. If the insurance company can prove that
everyone was knocked unconcious, then there's far less non-pecuniary
damages allowed than if the passengers were awake... during a 30,000
foot fall, for example.

This kind of compensation doesn't apply over international ocean, due
to the Death on the High Seas act.

IANAL, Kev