Rogue State of Israel Threatens Tactical Nuke Strikes on Iran

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Matt Giwer wrote:

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Another Zionist Jew trying to smoke screen the war for Israel agenda as
he doesn't care how many Americans die/get horribly wounded for Israel
in the Middle East like we have already experienced with the Iraq
quagmire with Iran to come soon for Israel as well:

If we use nukes, I doubt there'll be a quagmire.

All US supplies come inland from Kuwait via the only two major roads. The south
is controlled by the Shia. Iran is Shi'ite.

Get Iran ****ed and they shut off the supplies to US troops and they starve.
Cut off supplies and move into Iraq and kill them quickly.

Respond to an Iranian land war and face a well equipped army several times
larger than the Iraqi army and discover there are not enough US troops in the
world to fight them. Then there is a draft which takes months to deliver the
first troops to the battlefield presuming presuming by some miracle US troops
have managed to hold out that long.


Which doesn't change my point...if we use nukes, I doubt there'll
be a quagmire. What will be left of Iran or the Iranian Army?

This guy also seems to ignore the US's truly prodigious capability to
move people and goods by air...which the Iranians would have virtually
no ability to block...also the US's ability to rain destruction onto
Iran from above...even without going nuclear...which, if "properly"
implemented (don't hit civilian targets at all and stay away from
military targets that have a higher probability of collateral damage)
against the Iranian military only...would tend to destabilize the
mullahs and either destroy Iran's ability to make war OR bottle the
Iranian armed forces up in their cities...
If the mullahs could be shown to be ineffective against the US while at
the same time being hammered relentlessly militarily and causing "a
little" discomfort to the Iranian people only, the mullahs will lose
credibility with their own people and would likely be overthrown...from
within.
Remember, the only place in the Muslim world where there were
spontaneous demonstrations of SORROW and SADNESS and in SUPPORT of the
US after 9/11 was in IRANIAN cities...for God sake, built of that, don't
squander it like Bush senior and Bush junior did in Iraq...

....Ken

Ken Chaddock wrote:
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This guy also seems to ignore

As preamble I have a practical understanding of it and its limitations.

the US's truly prodigious capability to move people and goods by air...

And if you look it you will discover it is all shock force troops to hold an
area until the bulk of the troops arrive by conventional means. You will also
learn it is a fair weather capability and anyone can download satellite images
and predict the weather.

which the Iranians would have
virtually no ability to block...also the US's ability to rain
destruction onto Iran from above...even without going nuclear...which,
if "properly" implemented (don't hit civilian targets at all and stay
away from military targets that have a higher probability of collateral
damage) against the Iranian military only...would tend to destabilize
the mullahs and either destroy Iran's ability to make war OR bottle the
Iranian armed forces up in their cities...

The destruction from above would play well at home and it might even be true
that no civilians were harmed. But in the middle east it will be portrayed as
targeting civilians and everyone there will believe it. Look at what Americans
still believe about WWII if you don't think that will happen.

As for aerial bombing I repeat, it failed in Germany during WWII. It increased
not decreased the will to resist. It has increased the will to resist every time
it has been tried. Both Vietnams, Cambodia, Afghanistan, Serbia you name it. It
has always been troops on the ground that have been the deciding factor. For the
US in Afghanistan it was the alliance with the drug lords and their mercenaries
that provided the troops.

Why in the world would you talk about bottling up Iranian troops in the cities
as troops are not stationed in cities in the first place? In any confrontation
they would be augmenting the Shia in the south and east of Iraq cutting off the
land resupply from Kuwait. There is no way the US has the ability to air supply
what is brought in from Kuwait. And if that is tried ****loads of shoulder fired
AA rockets are going to find their way into Iraq to bring them down.

Am I pessimistic? The last I heard planes landing at Baghdad airport still
spiral in to avoid fire from the ground. Last I heard which was only six months
ago the FIVE MILES of city street from the airport to the Green Zone still is
NOT secured.

Please tell me how all this is suddenly going to turn around.

If the mullahs could be shown to be ineffective against the US while
at the same time being hammered relentlessly militarily and causing "a
little" discomfort to the Iranian people only, the mullahs will lose
credibility with their own people and would likely be overthrown...from
within.

And that is on the assumption that Iranians are really Americans trying to get
out from under the religious leadership. If they are overthrown they will be
replaced by some group that is more effective against the American attacks. That
is exactly what Americans would do if this country were under attack and losing
because of incompetent leadership. Why do you assume Iranians would do
differently from Americans?

Remember, the only place in the Muslim world where there were
spontaneous demonstrations of SORROW and SADNESS and in SUPPORT of the
US after 9/11 was in IRANIAN cities...for God sake, built of that, don't
squander it like Bush senior and Bush junior did in Iraq...

It was squandered on Iran when the US attacked Afghanistan three months after
9/11 without justification and based upon a war announced in MARCH 2001.

It was not the only place. Despite the Zionists lies the Palestinians also
expressed sympathy while Netanyahu said 9/11 was a good thing for Israel.

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Ken Chaddock wrote:

When considering US superior technology here is a question that a far from a
trick question.

The US constantly boasts of its night vision technology as a decisive
superiority capability.

What is the cheapest and easiest method to nullify that advantage that requires
no extra effort or expenditure?

I have had lots of guesses on that from bonfires to flares but none have gotten
it right the first time. Care to make a guess?

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Matt Giwer wrote:


What is the cheapest and easiest method to nullify that advantage
that requires no extra effort or expenditure?

Attack by day? I can't think of any practical way of preventing heat
emission except by insulation.

Bob Kolker

Robert Kolker wrote:
Matt Giwer wrote:
What is the cheapest and easiest method to nullify that advantage
that requires no extra effort or expenditure?

Attack by day? I can't think of any practical way of preventing heat
emission except by insulation.

So now I have to say only one person got it right the first time.

That is precisely the point. Every strength is limited and can be negated as it
is predicated upon a specific tactic. Night fighting is predicated upon enemy
troops being massed at night instead of being at home in bed as in Iraq.

If you cannot stand and fight then kill without doing that. If you get perfect
armor they learn to spray poison gas.

If they cannot be defeated never fight them. Just cause enough trouble they get
called and then go away. Fake trouble calls. Let them kill the innocent as you
can recruit the survivors.

Attack 20 places and melt away but get calls as to where they do show up.
Re-attack where they do not show up. How hard is this? Think simple.

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