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![]() Ron Lee schrieb: Can anyone identify an airport where gliders and powered aircraft use the same runway? Do they use opposite traffic patterns? Any other operational issues? Ron Lee it is possible. give a look up into http://www.segelflug-tirol.at Winch starts at the safety-strip along the rwy, landings 50 meters behind. B 757 in long final. best regards arturo |
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![]() Our club operates at an uncontrolled municipal airport with a 3600' paved runway. There is no landing on the grass to the side of the runway as it is too rough. Depending on wind direction, we either take off from the grass with about a 300' run before crossing the threshold (gliders are airborne by this point) or pushed out onto the runway when going from the other end. Radio communication with the power pilots is crucial as there is alot of transient traffic. Club rule require that ships stop on the runway and then get pushed off. This is due to more than one encounter with runway lights that put the glider out of action for a time. I agree that opposing patterns is a recipe for disaster at our airport but it may work well elsewhere. We enter the pattern at 1000' - the same as power. That way everyone knows where to look for conflicts. As a somewhat interesting aside, we also have a medivac based at our field. The chopper sits well off the runway near a hanger. One day the chopper was spinning up as a launch was getting ready to go (no wing runner) at the opposite end of the field. Winds were light and variable and traffic was very light. I was at mid-field and could see both but it was unlikely they could see each other. I know the view of the chopper is obscured by aircraft on the ramp and assume he couldn't see the tug. I was walking and had no radio. The launched commenced and just as the tug got airborne the medivac lifted off and basically flew over the taxiway offset but head-on to the tug/glider. The tug pilot banked a little to increase the separation and both went on their merry ways. It was close but didn't require radical maneuvering by either pilot. Minutes later a CFI and FAA Airport Safety Officer (or some such title) came down and basically chewed me out for having the launch proceed while a medivac was taking off. She let me know in no uncertain terms that the medivac has the right of way and we should have waited. I told her a) I wasn't even there and b) once the tug/glider launch they have very limited ability to maneuver especially that close to the ground. There was no question that the launch started before the chopper lifted off. She didn't want to hear it and went off in a huff. When the tug pilot returned he said that he didn't see the chopper spinning up, announced his take off, heard nothing from the medivac and didn't view it as a particularly close call. I never talked to the medivac pilot and never heard any complaints from them. I did notice that the medivacs now seem to "taxi" out to the runway and take off down the runway rather than climbing out right from their pad. Just another thing to be aware of. Mike |
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