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On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 12:01:12 +0300, Binyamin Dissen
wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 20:50:00 -0400 Peter Kemp wrote: :On 2 Jul 2003 17:45:33 -0700, (Quant) wrote: :2. Despite the fact that the American industries are heavily :subsidized they can't compete against the Israeli industries in price :and in many cases in quality. :And yet the Israel products repeatedly lose out to US products that :are "inferior" and "more expensive". False. Of course you can attempt to prove me wrong by supplying examples, but supplying proof is rarely the interest of the typical Holocaust denier. Holocaust denier? Me? I suggest you alter your medication mate, as I've said nothing of the sort *ever*, and I'd like to see you show one iota of evidence that I have supported such notions. As for proof, the IDF use of the M-16 vice the Galil, or the F-16 vice the Lavi |
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 06:42:39 -0400 Peter Kemp
wrote: :On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 12:01:12 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: :On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 20:50:00 -0400 Peter Kemp :wrote: ::On 2 Jul 2003 17:45:33 -0700, (Quant) wrote: ::2. Despite the fact that the American industries are heavily ::subsidized they can't compete against the Israeli industries in price ::and in many cases in quality. ::And yet the Israel products repeatedly lose out to US products that ::are "inferior" and "more expensive". :False. :Of course you can attempt to prove me wrong by supplying examples, but :supplying proof is rarely the interest of the typical Holocaust denier. :Holocaust denier? Me? I suggest you alter your medication mate, as :I've said nothing of the sort *ever*, and I'd like to see you show one :iota of evidence that I have supported such notions. :As for proof, the IDF use of the M-16 vice the Galil, or the F-16 vice :the Lavi Have you compared the prices of each to the GOI? In these cases the inferior product is also cheaper. -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com |
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Binyamin Dissen wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 06:42:39 -0400 Peter Kemp wrote: :On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 12:01:12 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: :On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 20:50:00 -0400 Peter Kemp :wrote: ::On 2 Jul 2003 17:45:33 -0700, (Quant) wrote: ::2. Despite the fact that the American industries are heavily ::subsidized they can't compete against the Israeli industries in price ::and in many cases in quality. ::And yet the Israel products repeatedly lose out to US products that ::are "inferior" and "more expensive". :False. :Of course you can attempt to prove me wrong by supplying examples, but :supplying proof is rarely the interest of the typical Holocaust denier. :Holocaust denier? Me? I suggest you alter your medication mate, as :I've said nothing of the sort *ever*, and I'd like to see you show one :iota of evidence that I have supported such notions. :As for proof, the IDF use of the M-16 vice the Galil, or the F-16 vice :the Lavi Have you compared the prices of each to the GOI? In these cases the inferior product is also cheaper. Benny, The Galil is too heavy for the infantry but Israel continues to use it for the armored force and other units. For the near future the IDF also preferred the excellent M-16 M4 on the new Israeli Tavor bullpup but the main reason was the dollaric budget of the IDF (American guns don't cost money to Israel, its part of the military aid). The Lavi is irrelevant today. It was buried 20 years ago when the US tried to prevent competition to the F-16. The bottom line is that we all agree that Israel-US relations are a mutual relations and that it's wrong to say that the US was "doing a favor" to Israel when it decided to give financial/military aid to Israel and to other states in the region. |
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Binyamin Dissen wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 20:50:00 -0400 Peter Kemp wrote: :On 2 Jul 2003 17:45:33 -0700, (Quant) wrote: (Kevin Brooks) wrote in message . com... : Yep. We give the Israelis beaucoup bucks, and they turn around and : sell their most advanced military products to the PRC while : simultaneously engaging in espionage activities here in the US. One : hell of a two way street you got there. :1. The money America "give" is subsidizing the American industries and :hurting the Israeli industries. :Ten why does Israel accept it? Is the government really that stupid? It allows the Israeli government to defer hard choices. And, yes, it is stupid. :Or are they grateful for the aid in filling a big hole in their :budget? Some are. Some aren't, because making the hard choice would be much more beneficial in the long term and thus accepting the money ends up hurting. :2. Despite the fact that the American industries are heavily :subsidized they can't compete against the Israeli industries in price :and in many cases in quality. :And yet the Israel products repeatedly lose out to US products that :are "inferior" and "more expensive". False. Of course you can attempt to prove me wrong by supplying examples, but supplying proof is rarely the interest of the typical Holocaust denier. How ripe (and unfortunately, to be expected). Anytime someone is critical of Israeli policies, or dares to differ with an Israeli/Pro-Israeli, the old "racist/Holocaust denier" card is whipped out. I mean, how DARE someone have the temerity to disagree with Israeli policy--obvious evidence in that of a deep-seated racial/religious prejudice. Is it just me, or is there a serious logical disconnect in that reasoning path? Brooks |
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