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Urban Fredriksson
Suitable targets included embarkation ports, massed troop concentrations, depots and bridges. To stop and break up an expected 8 or 9 Soviet divisions marching through Finland, 50 bombs were calculated to be necessary. Depending on where on Swedish territory the weapons were to be used, between 900 and 35 000 civilian casualities were estimated for each explosion. On _Swedish_ territory? A reason why Finland wasn't entirely happy g with the Swedish nuclear weapon plans was that at it was seen that the weapons would have been targeted for Finnish territory. Perhaps somewhat like the conserns in West Germany about the French tac nukes located in France which didn't have the range to overfly West Germany. I have difficulty in understanding what the Swedish nuclear doctrine would have looked liked. Surely the Soviets would have responded going nuclear too? Sweden with a limited nuber of tac nukes wouldn't have had that much of a deterrance (in cold war terms) against an escalation to a strategic exchange? Moreover 50 tac nukes needed to stop a mere 8 or 9 Soviet divisions? Huh? Heck, the Finnish army would have had them for breakfst, using conventional weapons, just like it did a few decades earlier g. Uhm, well... ![]() Btw, about the A 36 thread, 'A' stands for attack, and it's obviously an attack plane rather than a bomber. |
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M *@*.* wrote:
Moreover 50 tac nukes needed to stop a mere 8 or 9 Soviet divisions? Huh? Heck, the Finnish army would have had them for breakfst, using conventional weapons, just like it did a few decades earlier g. Uhm, well... ![]() From late 40's to the late 60's it would have been other way around. Army had not had practically any new equipment since the end of the war, and for the Air Force and Navy was about as bad. For behalf of the Swedes, tactical nukes were the buzzword of the 50's and early 60's, much like "information warfare" or "transformation of warfare " are today. It was expected that they would be used from day one onwards. Every country, even Finland, hurrily modified their fighting doctrines and organizations in order to meet this new threat. Those small countries which had resources, like Sweden and Switzerland, were trying to develop their own weapons. This reorganization of armed forces was probably taken into extreme by Americans in the early 60's, and later by the French in late 60's. Aviation content of this post is that most of the strike aircraft of period were principally meant for nuclear weapons delivery. Motto: "There is no such thing as mystical radiation sickness" (quoted from memory) "Atomic Weapons in Land Combat" (1952) terveisin, jukka raustia -- "Päinvastoin, olisi nähtävä, että Suomen turvallisuus _kaikissa tilanteissa_ nojautuu olennaisesti siihen, että tarpeen vaatiessa Suomi voi tukeutua Neuvostoliiton apuun koskemattomuutensa säilyttämiseksi." -s. 57, Kaksiteräinen miekka - 70-luvun puolustuspolitiikkaa" Jaakko Blomberg, Pentti Joenniemi, Helsinki 1971. |
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Just to let you know Urban- I appreciated all the information you
supplied. However, for historical accuracy and general curiosity I contacted Saab directly and am waiting for them to send me some info on the A36, including any possible configuration drawings of the Surte bomb. I'm sure Saab will fill me in on exactly what color scheme/camo of the aircraft would have been, the units operating it, the length and width of the bomb bay, and the size of the nuke carried. I was going to try Bofors regarding the bomb but I'm not sure they did any design studies at all. Bofors would have manufactured key components of the bomb once the design was set but all I have is speculation right now. I thought that I would mention one man in Sweden who e-mailed me to tell me how the government is still lying to the people and has plans for rapid assembly of a specific type of nuclear weapon based on a FSU design. Have you heard anything about that lately? Sweden has bought HPM weapons from Russia and tested them (out of concern over the threat to the Gripen) but I've never heard of Sweden offering to buy a nuclear design from them. Anyway, thanks for the info... now I have to wait to hear from Saab. When I do I'll post any interesting information. Rob |
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