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Israel pays the price for buying only Boeing (and not Airbus)



 
 
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Old July 3rd 03, 10:55 PM
Arie Kazachin
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(Kevin Brooks) writes:


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So the US is running Israeli elections? No more so (and probably a lot
less so)than AIPAC is influencing US elections.


In 1992 Israel was swamped by a wave
of new comers from the former USSR (10% of population in few short years)
and was asking for a loan guaranties from US. At the same period there was
a demand from US to start "advancing" in the so-called "peace process"
(as usuall, the "advance" is in the direction of the sea). Israely right
headed by Shamir was opposing US demand while Israely left headed by
Rabin was supporting it. So, shortly before the 1992 elections, the US
secretary of the state Jim Baker said: "Israeli voters should choose:
either they vote for Shamir or for the loan guaranties".
If that isn't "an offer we can't refuse" I don't know what it is.

But let's return to aircrafts:

The F-16 alone has about 800 changes in them suggested by IAF as a result
of their operation and which worth billions to the F-16s manufacturer when
selling to other states. In a similar way, almost any US weapon in IDF has
lots of "bugs" found and reported, which translates to higher profits when
selling to other states. Also, there are other issues that salespeople
know worth a lot:


This hyperbole is unsupported. The US itself was operating the F-16,
along with NATO nations, before Israel ever put it into service.



Imagine two aircraft salespersons attempting to make a fat deal
with a representative of some country. Salesperson A claims:

"For the last few years our aircrafts had been patroling
the airspace, practicing on firing ranges and in mock A-A engagements, etc".

Salesperson B claims:

"For the last few years our aircrafts attacked Iraqi reactor at range
slightly longer than the manufacturer stated and they also participated in
real A-A engagements and went out victorious at all times".

With all other factors being equal, I'm sure you'll agree that
salesperson B will make the sale because to the customer, real
combat experience is much more important that peace time operation.
And not only the customer knows that, the manufacturer knows too.
And it might make business sense to give away product to 5% of the market
it it can help get publicity and get higher profits from the remaining 95%
of the market.





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