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Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC



 
 
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Old January 18th 07, 02:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Safety announcements can override all audio channels, so it isn't
necessary to take headphones off to hear them.


Yep, typical response of a person who never stepped into a plane.

Ya know, safety announcements just may have to be made if something
catastropic happens to the electrial system and flight attendence have to
bark out orders using their own voices. I.E evacutation orders.

Allen
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Old January 18th 07, 02:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC

A Lieberma writes:

Yep, typical response of a person who never stepped into a plane.


No, typical response of someone who has actually looked at the comm
stack in a commercial airliner.

Ya know, safety announcements just may have to be made if something
catastropic happens to the electrial system and flight attendence have to
bark out orders using their own voices. I.E evacutation orders.


Yes, but not every announcement is an evacuation order. Announcements
can be made that override all audio channels.

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Old January 18th 07, 05:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Ya know, safety announcements just may have to be made if something
catastropic happens to the electrial system and flight attendence
have to bark out orders using their own voices. I.E evacutation
orders.


Yes, but not every announcement is an evacuation order. Announcements
can be made that override all audio channels.


Yep, a response from a person who never stepped into a plane.

Reeeeeeeed carefully above.

Better yet, pull the plug to your computer and make an announcment over
your radio stack and see just how many of your imaginary passengers will
hear your announcement.

Allen
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Old January 18th 07, 12:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC


A Lieberma wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Ya know, safety announcements just may have to be made if something
catastropic happens to the electrial system and flight attendence
have to bark out orders using their own voices. I.E evacutation
orders.


Yes, but not every announcement is an evacuation order. Announcements
can be made that override all audio channels.


Yep, a response from a person who never stepped into a plane.
Reeeeeeeed carefully above.


?? It might be clear in your own head, but I can't figure out what
you're arguing about. All Mx said is that you can hear announcements
on top of the headphone channels. That's certainly been my
experience. Are you claiming otherwise?

Puzzled, Kev

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Old January 18th 07, 11:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC

A Lieberma writes:

Nope, what I am saying is that headphones should not be worn should safety
announcements OUTSIDE the PA system be needed due to catastrophic
electrical loss.


How many people would be wearing headphones after a loss of electrical
power? Are there vacuum-powered audio systems?

On my latest flight, all movies were shut down below 10,000 feet in
preparation for landing. As stated earlier up in the thread, I was
surprised to hear that audio for channel 9 was still available since I was
under the understanding since all videos were shut down, that the channel
nine audio would have been shut off.


Why? There isn't necessarily any reason to shut either of them off,
as long as announcements are heard.

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