Cherokee 235 vs Trinidad vs Comanche

Newps wrote:



Jay Honeck wrote:

I taught myself the "short women landing a 182" trick and my instructor
wanted to throttle me. I trimmed it for the flare and pushed it forward
on short final. I didn't have the arm strength to yank it into the
flare if I was sitting close enough to reach the rudder. About a month
later Rod Machado wrote up pretty much what I had figured out.



That's awesome! I may just try that technique myself, just to see how
it works.


This I don't understand. With just myself in my old 182 the CG is
pretty far forward. Properly trimmed it's a two finger operation to
flare. If you have to yank it you're really doing something wrong.

That was my experience also. And I flew my 182 often alone with the cg
pretty far forward. If I trimmed for 80 MPH I found that after dropping
flaps 40, the force required to flare was not bad at all. Definitely
attainable with two fingers.

Matt

That was my experience also. And I flew my 182 often alone with the cg
pretty far forward. If I trimmed for 80 MPH I found that after dropping
flaps 40, the force required to flare was not bad at all. Definitely
attainable with two fingers.

My experience as well - and I've been flying mine for 29 years now. I
have found, though, that it is easier to get a smooth landing if you
use only 30 degrees of flap. So I reserve 40 for when I really need it
(not often).

I'm wondering if there is a difference between older and newer 182s (I
fly a B model). I frankly don't know what
these guys are talking about.

David Johnson

Dave wrote:
That was my experience also. And I flew my 182 often alone with the cg
pretty far forward. If I trimmed for 80 MPH I found that after dropping
flaps 40, the force required to flare was not bad at all. Definitely
attainable with two fingers.


My experience as well - and I've been flying mine for 29 years now. I
have found, though, that it is easier to get a smooth landing if you
use only 30 degrees of flap. So I reserve 40 for when I really need it
(not often).

I always used 40. The only time I ever landed with less than 40 was
during practice and the night I got iced up... :-)


I'm wondering if there is a difference between older and newer 182s (I
fly a B model). I frankly don't know what
these guys are talking about.

That could be. I flew a K model, but I can't imagine the newer
airplanes being all that much different.

Matt

Dave wrote:


I'm wondering if there is a difference between older and newer 182s (I
fly a B model). I frankly don't know what
these guys are talking about.

The small tail birds flew a little different. The small tail went up to
about 1965.

Newps wrote:
Dave wrote:


I'm wondering if there is a difference between older and newer 182s (I
fly a B model). I frankly don't know what
these guys are talking about.

The small tail birds flew a little different. The small tail went up to
about 1965.

Mine (1959) is the last of the straight tails. I haven't flown any
newer 182s, so can't comment on their flying characteristics.

David Johnson

Dave wrote:

Newps wrote:

Dave wrote:


I'm wondering if there is a difference between older and newer 182s (I
fly a B model). I frankly don't know what
these guys are talking about.

The small tail birds flew a little different. The small tail went up to
about 1965.


Mine (1959) is the last of the straight tails. I haven't flown any
newer 182s, so can't comment on their flying characteristics.

That's different. The straight tails actually have a more effective
vertical stab and rudder than any of the swept tails. However you also
had a smaller elevator, lots of guys with the later small tails, early
60's, wouldn't use 40 flaps without people or other weight in the back.