Sebring and Hitlaw

"olympusE1" wrote in message
ps.com...
...if you have indeed "checked that already" then why is it that you, a
"Certified Computer Network expert"

You must be thinking of the wrong person, or else you're making the common
mistake of parroting what other RAH gagglers say, Alan. Bad idea.

I'm sorry, but I just don't believe you.

Well, then you're making yet another common mistakes, that of thinking I
care.




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....oh I don't think you care, Mr. Jimenez... my threshold for
self-delusion is far below yours. You obviously don't care about
anyone or anything, other than the sound of your own voice and the
clacking of your keyboard. What I do think is that you're neither man
enough nor mature enough, despite your advancing years, to admit when
you're wrong; your latest retort is yet another descent into nonsense
where you babble on about how the name in the FAA database must be
"some other Frank Hitlaw." Your insatiable need to annoy people is
beyond belief, and THAT, Mr. Jimenez is what I define as a bad idea.
What you think of that definition is, in itself, the definition of
irrelevance, but I will tell you this: One day you're going to annoy
the wrong person despite your "yo soy mas macho" nonsense here. Having
been within arms length of you on three occasions in the past 18
months, I can attest to this:

And as for "Certified Computer Network Expert" I got that from YOUR BD5
website. You've spent "320 hours of study and 800 pages of reading" to
have achieved the certification from the firm for which you now lecture
under contract according to your website. (While I know that your
quotation of those figures is meant to impress, in my case you're
talking/typing to someone who goes through a couple thousand pages of
manuals every time the rat *******s at Adobe come out with another
version of Photoshop. My "certificates" for wading through those
tomes, though, have "pay to the order of" on them, and that's just fine
and dandy with me. Too, I know for a fact that at least one of the
people you regularly belittle here has a pair of postgraduate degrees
from a university that the pink elephants mention attending in THEIR
bios...)

So there you go, Mr. Jimenez: We have to agree to disagree. It is my
opinion that you are a rude, petulant, self-centered and self-absorbed
overweight child, and I imagine that you would disagree with that
opinion.

With that, plonk!

Off you and your opinions, and your excuses, and your snide remarks,
and most especially your childish emoticons go into the trash bin.


Juan Jimenez wrote:
"olympusE1" wrote in message
ps.com...
...if you have indeed "checked that already" then why is it that you, a
"Certified Computer Network expert"

You must be thinking of the wrong person, or else you're making the common
mistake of parroting what other RAH gagglers say, Alan. Bad idea.

I'm sorry, but I just don't believe you.

Well, then you're making yet another common mistakes, that of thinking I
care.




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"olympusE1" wrote in message
ps.com...
...oh I don't think you care, Mr. Jimenez... my threshold for
self-delusion is far below yours.

Oh, bull****. I'm still waiting for you to have the balls to confront me at
OSH like you said you would, years ago. Shut up and go back to your high
chair, boy.

And as for "Certified Computer Network Expert" I got that from YOUR BD5
website. You've spent "320 hours of study and 800 pages of reading" to
have achieved the certification from the firm for which you now lecture
under contract according to your website.

Your reading skills suck. The certification has nothing to do with networks.


BTW, why do you have images on your "web site" from companies who fired you?
Isn't that unethical?



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I love the small print at the bottom of the Certificate..."The ITIL
certification scheme is officially supported by" ... SCHEME...I LOVE IT!

What IS I.T.? Last time I checked IT had to do with Information
Technology (specifically, the exchange of information between
computers). Computers exchange information over networks. How can you
get a Manager's Certificate in IT Service Management without knowing
networking?

I'm attending the University of Wisconsin and am close to graduating
with a Bachelor's in Information and Communications Technology. They
also offer a degree in Information Technology Management (which sounds
like your certificate). Here is a snippet from that course of study:


"The technical curriculum in the telecommunication area focuses on
contemporary methods of analysis, design, and telecommunication systems
solutions. Technical courses are delivered in areas including telephony,
networking, telecommunication policy and regulation, administration,
video, imaging, and multimedia. Students completing this program will
earn these highly respected certifications: Cisco CCNA and CCDA and one
or more of the following: Cisco CCNP and Cisco CCDP."

Hmmm...involves NETWORKING.

Scott




Juan Jimenez wrote:



Your reading skills suck. The certification has nothing to do with networks.

Close to graduating with a degree in ICT and doesn't know the difference
between systems management and service management, and has not been
introduced to ITIL or its ITSM component, the defacto worldwide standard for
_service_ management, which has nothing to do with managing networks. That's
about par for what universities put out these days as an excuse for
graduates. You should be asking for a refund.

Educate yourself, kiddo. Trust me when I tell you it would behoove you to be
aware of a service management framework on which IBM, HP, Microsoft and many
other worldwide companies base their service management methodologies. If
you don't think this is important, go to monster.com, enter ITIL as a search
term and watch what comes out. As of right no less than 866 job posting
mention it and/or require it. Top it off with the fact that the federal
government will soon require it as a prerequisite to doing business (on the
basis of ISO 20000) and maybe you'll get the picture.

http://www.itil.co.uk

Juan

"Scott" wrote in message
.. .
I love the small print at the bottom of the Certificate..."The ITIL
certification scheme is officially supported by" ... SCHEME...I LOVE IT!

What IS I.T.? Last time I checked IT had to do with Information
Technology (specifically, the exchange of information between computers).
Computers exchange information over networks. How can you get a Manager's
Certificate in IT Service Management without knowing networking?

I'm attending the University of Wisconsin and am close to graduating with
a Bachelor's in Information and Communications Technology. They also
offer a degree in Information Technology Management (which sounds like
your certificate). Here is a snippet from that course of study:


"The technical curriculum in the telecommunication area focuses on
contemporary methods of analysis, design, and telecommunication systems
solutions. Technical courses are delivered in areas including telephony,
networking, telecommunication policy and regulation, administration,
video, imaging, and multimedia. Students completing this program will earn
these highly respected certifications: Cisco CCNA and CCDA and one or more
of the following: Cisco CCNP and Cisco CCDP."

Hmmm...involves NETWORKING.

Scott




Juan Jimenez wrote:



Your reading skills suck. The certification has nothing to do with
networks.



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So, tell me what an IT Service Manager does. Spell it out. In our
company, we have an IT Manager that sets up routers, switches, etc. Has
to know how to use a computer and how to set them up to work over
networks so that information can be exchanged. Do you manage service
people at GeekSquad or do you manage people who setup and maintain
corporate networks?

The whole point of this goes back to a bunch of us (supposedly
uneducated types) who found Hitlaw in the FAA database using the
simplest of search procedures, with "no" IT knowledge of any sort and
you, the IT expert couldn't do it. How can you manage people if you
can't do the work yourself? As a manager, if you were required to fill
in for a vacation of one of your subordinates, how could you do their job?

Scott


Juan Jimenez wrote:
Close to graduating with a degree in ICT and doesn't know the difference
between systems management and service management, and has not been
introduced to ITIL or its ITSM component, the defacto worldwide standard for
_service_ management, which has nothing to do with managing networks. That's
about par for what universities put out these days as an excuse for
graduates. You should be asking for a refund.

Educate yourself, kiddo. Trust me when I tell you it would behoove you to be
aware of a service management framework on which IBM, HP, Microsoft and many
other worldwide companies base their service management methodologies. If
you don't think this is important, go to monster.com, enter ITIL as a search
term and watch what comes out. As of right no less than 866 job posting
mention it and/or require it. Top it off with the fact that the federal
government will soon require it as a prerequisite to doing business (on the
basis of ISO 20000) and maybe you'll get the picture.

http://www.itil.co.uk

Juan

"Scott" wrote in message
.. .

I love the small print at the bottom of the Certificate..."The ITIL
certification scheme is officially supported by" ... SCHEME...I LOVE IT!

What IS I.T.? Last time I checked IT had to do with Information
Technology (specifically, the exchange of information between computers).
Computers exchange information over networks. How can you get a Manager's
Certificate in IT Service Management without knowing networking?

I'm attending the University of Wisconsin and am close to graduating with
a Bachelor's in Information and Communications Technology. They also
offer a degree in Information Technology Management (which sounds like
your certificate). Here is a snippet from that course of study:


"The technical curriculum in the telecommunication area focuses on
contemporary methods of analysis, design, and telecommunication systems
solutions. Technical courses are delivered in areas including telephony,
networking, telecommunication policy and regulation, administration,
video, imaging, and multimedia. Students completing this program will earn
these highly respected certifications: Cisco CCNA and CCDA and one or more
of the following: Cisco CCNP and Cisco CCDP."

Hmmm...involves NETWORKING.

Scott




Juan Jimenez wrote:



Your reading skills suck. The certification has nothing to do with
networks.

"Scott" wrote in message
.. .
So, tell me what an IT Service Manager does.

Consults in implementations of ITIL/IT Service Management and/or leads the
same.

Spell it out. In our company, we have an IT Manager that sets up
routers, switches, etc.

Wrong answer. You're making the common mistake of confusing ICT
Infrastructure Management with IT Service Management. Go read the site I
gave you, you will find it eye-opening.



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Why get a refund? I want to work with the equipment, not sit on my ass
and boss others around and take all the glory for their fine work...I
guess I got an extra dose of humility when they were handing it out.

Scott





Juan Jimenez wrote:

Close to graduating with a degree in ICT and doesn't know the difference
between systems management and service management, and has not been
introduced to ITIL or its ITSM component, the defacto worldwide standard for
_service_ management, which has nothing to do with managing networks. That's
about par for what universities put out these days as an excuse for
graduates. You should be asking for a refund.

Educate yourself, kiddo. Trust me when I tell you it would behoove you to be
aware of a service management framework on which IBM, HP, Microsoft and many
other worldwide companies base their service management methodologies. If
you don't think this is important, go to monster.com, enter ITIL as a search
term and watch what comes out. As of right no less than 866 job posting
mention it and/or require it. Top it off with the fact that the federal
government will soon require it as a prerequisite to doing business (on the
basis of ISO 20000) and maybe you'll get the picture.

http://www.itil.co.uk

Juan

"Scott" wrote in message
.. .
Why get a refund? I want to work with the equipment, not sit on my ass
and boss others around and take all the glory for their fine work...I
guess I got an extra dose of humility when they were handing it out.

Scott

You'll figure it out when you grow up. IT Service Management is not about
bossing anyone around.



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....oh I don't think you care, Mr. Jimenez... my threshold for
self-delusion is far below yours. You obviously don't care about
anyone or anything, other than the sound of your own voice and the
clacking of your keyboard. What I do think is that you're neither man
enough nor mature enough, despite your advancing years, to admit when
you're wrong; your latest retort is yet another descent into nonsense
where you babble on about how the name in the FAA database must be
"some other Frank Hitlaw." Your insatiable need to annoy people is
beyond belief, and THAT, Mr. Jimenez is what I define as a bad idea.
What you think of that definition is, in itself, the definition of
irrelevance, but I will tell you this: One day you're going to annoy
the wrong person despite your "yo soy mas macho" nonsense here. Having
been within arms length of you on three occasions in the past 18
months, I can attest to this:

And as for "Certified Computer Network Expert" I got that from YOUR BD5
website. You've spent "320 hours of study and 800 pages of reading" to
have achieved the certification from the firm for which you now lecture
under contract according to your website. (While I know that your
quotation of those figures is meant to impress, in my case you're
talking/typing to someone who goes through a couple thousand pages of
manuals every time the rat *******s at Adobe come out with another
version of Photoshop. My "certificates" for wading through those
tomes, though, have "pay to the order of" on them, and that's just fine
and dandy with me. Too, I know for a fact that at least one of the
people you regularly belittle here has a pair of postgraduate degrees
from a university that the pink elephants mention attending in THEIR
bios...)

So there you go, Mr. Jimenez: We have to agree to disagree. It is my
opinion that you are a rude, petulant, self-centered and self-absorbed
overweight child, and I imagine that you would disagree with that
opinion.

With that, plonk!

Off you and your opinions, and your excuses, and your snide remarks,
and most especially your childish emoticons go into the trash bin.


Juan Jimenez wrote:
"olympusE1" wrote in message
ps.com...
...if you have indeed "checked that already" then why is it that you, a
"Certified Computer Network expert"

You must be thinking of the wrong person, or else you're making the common
mistake of parroting what other RAH gagglers say, Alan. Bad idea.

I'm sorry, but I just don't believe you.

Well, then you're making yet another common mistakes, that of thinking I
care.




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