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Frequency of convictions for lying on FAA medical form



 
 
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Old January 22nd 07, 07:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Natalie
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Default Frequency of convictions for lying on FAA medical form

Jim Macklin wrote:
Just ask the FAA, statistics must be reported.

But like most FAA enforcement, investigations follow
accidents. They don't have convictions or civil penalties
for dead pilots, although there may be torts for innocent
losses.


Doesn't need to be a dead pilot, just a fatal accident (someone
other than the pilot may have died)...
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Old January 22nd 07, 08:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Sally Grozmano
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Default Frequency of convictions for lying on FAA medical form

Ron Natalie wrote in news:45b5151e$0$28100
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Jim Macklin wrote:
Just ask the FAA, statistics must be reported.

But like most FAA enforcement, investigations follow
accidents. They don't have convictions or civil penalties
for dead pilots, although there may be torts for innocent
losses.


Doesn't need to be a dead pilot, just a fatal accident (someone
other than the pilot may have died)...


Just to reiterate what I said before, if I am involved in an accident where
someone dies, the last thing on my mind is going to be financial penalties.
That would haunt me for the rest of my life (whether I was at fault or
not). My main concern is getting my ticket, and slapped with a huge fine
from the FAA finding out about my ommisions through other channels
(insurance, DEA, etc).
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Old January 22nd 07, 10:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Dallas
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On 22 Jan 2007 20:17:46 GMT, Sally wrote:

My main concern is getting my ticket, and slapped with a huge fine
from the FAA finding out about my ommisions through other channels
(insurance, DEA, etc).


Aren't you a bit worried about Google Groups archiving this admission, with
what looks like your real name, well into the next century?

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Old January 22nd 07, 11:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Mark Hansen
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Default Frequency of convictions for lying on FAA medical form

On 01/22/07 14:59, Dallas wrote:
On 22 Jan 2007 20:17:46 GMT, Sally wrote:

My main concern is getting my ticket, and slapped with a huge fine
from the FAA finding out about my ommisions through other channels
(insurance, DEA, etc).


Aren't you a bit worried about Google Groups archiving this admission, with
what looks like your real name, well into the next century?


Admissions? Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see the OP admit anything.
Just asked a few 'What if...' questions.

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Old January 24th 07, 04:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Dallas
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Default Frequency of convictions for lying on FAA medical form

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:05:12 -0800, Mark Hansen wrote:

Admissions? Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see the OP admit anything.
Just asked a few 'What if...' questions.


Very true.

She also seems to have evaporated after I mentioned it.

Sally, if you're worried about it you can go to Google Groups and have your
posts removed from the archive.

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Old January 24th 07, 01:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Sally Grozmano
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Default Frequency of convictions for lying on FAA medical form

Dallas wrote in
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:05:12 -0800, Mark Hansen wrote:

Admissions? Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see the OP admit
anything. Just asked a few 'What if...' questions.


Very true.

She also seems to have evaporated after I mentioned it.


Nope, still here. The thread has drifted somewhat from my original question
, so I am guessing the answer is not known. I have not responded to posts
such as "You are claiming all pilots are pathological liars" or "Your
question is boring" because they are obvious flamebait.


Sally, if you're worried about it you can go to Google Groups and have
your posts removed from the archive.


Thanks for the tip. I'm not worried about the FAA looking through the
archives; if anything, my concern would be an overzealous participant in
this NG trying to raise a stink. In any event, I have taken the necessary
precautions
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Old January 23rd 07, 07:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default Frequency of convictions for lying on FAA medical form

Dallas writes:

Aren't you a bit worried about Google Groups archiving this admission, with
what looks like your real name, well into the next century?


It doesn't contain an admission of anything.

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Old January 24th 07, 10:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Happy Dog
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Default Frequency of convictions for lying on FAA medical form

"Sally Grozmano"

Just to reiterate what I said before, if I am involved in an accident
where
someone dies, the last thing on my mind is going to be financial
penalties.
That would haunt me for the rest of my life (whether I was at fault or
not). My main concern is getting my ticket, and slapped with a huge fine
from the FAA finding out about my ommisions through other channels
(insurance, DEA, etc).


Well, don't kill anyone and you'll never be noticed..What, exactly, did you
do that requires discipline? Your "main concern" is boring.

m


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Old January 22nd 07, 08:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default Frequency of convictions for lying on FAA medical form

But if the pilot dies, he won't be prosecuted. That was the
point.



"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| Just ask the FAA, statistics must be reported.
|
| But like most FAA enforcement, investigations follow
| accidents. They don't have convictions or civil
penalties
| for dead pilots, although there may be torts for
innocent
| losses.
|
| Doesn't need to be a dead pilot, just a fatal accident
(someone
| other than the pilot may have died)...


 




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