Lost log books

On Jan 24, 9:15 pm, "BT" wrote:
he's got zero logbooks for it?

start running.. away... very far away and as fast as you can..


It's perfectly reasonable that a well maintained plane could have it's
logbooks go missing.

The flight school I work at has all the logbooks for their planes
stored in one room by the maintenance hangar. If that thing goes up in
flames, the planes are no less flyable.

The flight school I work at has all the logbooks for their planes
stored in one room by the maintenance hangar. If that thing goes up in
flames, the planes are no less flyable.


I would hope someone was smart enough to buy a fire proof safe for that
room.
If they did go up in flames how would your student take their
checkride?
Lou

The flight school I work at has all the logbooks for their planes
stored in one room by the maintenance hangar. If that thing goes up in
flames, the planes are no less flyable.


I would hope someone was smart enough to buy a fire proof safe for that
room.

Great idea, but that would put them on a different "plane of reality" from
most places I recall working. Admittedly, none were aircraft
operators--but...

Peter

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 03:57:14 -0800, Lou wrote
(in article .com):




The flight school I work at has all the logbooks for their planes
stored in one room by the maintenance hangar. If that thing goes up in
flames, the planes are no less flyable.


I would hope someone was smart enough to buy a fire proof safe for that
room.
If they did go up in flames how would your student take their
checkride?
Lou


I have never seen a flight school keeping aircraft logbooks in a fireproof
safe. Usually these logbooks occupy several shelves in the maintenance office
and are much too large to put in any reasonable sort of safe.

Logbooks get lost, destroyed, or whatever, all of the time.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

We kept the aircraft logs in the airplane. Shop records on
paper and computer where the back-up. Without the logbooks,
how do you do a proper pre-flight? Any school that locks
the logs away from the student or a renter acts as though
they something to hide.


"C J Campbell" wrote
in message
e.com...
| On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 03:57:14 -0800, Lou wrote
| (in article
.com):
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| The flight school I work at has all the logbooks for
their planes
| stored in one room by the maintenance hangar. If that
thing goes up in
| flames, the planes are no less flyable.
|
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| I would hope someone was smart enough to buy a fire
proof safe for that
| room.
| If they did go up in flames how would your student take
their
| checkride?
| Lou
|
|
| I have never seen a flight school keeping aircraft
logbooks in a fireproof
| safe. Usually these logbooks occupy several shelves in the
maintenance office
| and are much too large to put in any reasonable sort of
safe.
|
| Logbooks get lost, destroyed, or whatever, all of the
time.
|
| --
| Waddling Eagle
| World Famous Flight Instructor
|

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 03:57:14 -0800, in
.com, Lou wrote:
I would hope someone was smart enough to buy a fire proof safe for that
room.

One might hope... One might also be mistaken... grin

I had my plane on leaseback with a FBO quite a few years ago... The logs
were definitely not kept in any sort of fireproof safe... Come to think of
it, how many of us here even keep our logs in a fireproof safe?

.... quick search ...

Turns out that my logs are right *next* to my fireproof gun safe under
a pile of other stuff (computer parts and such)... Unfortunately, "close"
doesn't count... Considering the fact that I have a scanner, I probably
should scan a copy of the logs for archival purposes and store the images
remotely, perhaps on a private directory on my web site...

Grumman-581 wrote:
I had my plane on leaseback with a FBO quite a few years ago... The logs
were definitely not kept in any sort of fireproof safe... Come to think of
it, how many of us here even keep our logs in a fireproof safe?

I do.
After having to produce them for the FAA the day after an accident,
followed by getting them to the insurance ASAP (thank God everything was
up-to-date and well organized), it was pretty easy to see the costly
pickle I'd have been in if I didn't have them, or if they were
incomplete.

Grumman-581 wrote:
s.com, Lou wrote:
I would hope someone was smart enough to buy a fire proof safe for that
room.

One might hope... One might also be mistaken... grin

I had my plane on leaseback with a FBO quite a few years ago... The logs
were definitely not kept in any sort of fireproof safe... Come to think of
it, how many of us here even keep our logs in a fireproof safe?

Me! Well, maybe not fireproof, but all logbooks except the current
airframe and engine are in the safe deposit box at the airport. Along
with a CD containing scanned images of every page of all the books.
At home, the current books are in my small fire "resistant" box in
the basement along with computer backups.

Yes, I'm paranoid. But then I've been doing software for so many years
I don't even notice I'm paranoid any longer.

In article ,
Grumman-581 wrote:

Come to think of
it, how many of us here even keep our logs in a fireproof safe?

I do. I bought the safe precisely because I wanted to protect the logs

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

"buttman" wrote:
It's perfectly reasonable that a well maintained plane could have it's
logbooks go missing.

The flight school I work at has all the logbooks for their planes
stored in one room by the maintenance hangar. If that thing goes up in
flames, the planes are no less flyable.

Would you be PIC in an airplane if you KNEW no aircraft logbooks existed
for it?

Have something go wrong, and the first thing the FAA followed by the
insurance company asks for are the aircraft logbooks. Don't have them?
.... good luck ... hope you have lots of $.

Logbooks should be stored in a fireproof safe. And with today's
technology, not a bad idea to scan them and make a CD or two and provide
one to the insurance company. Yeah, it would need to be updated
annually, but if anything happens to the originals, you're never more
than a year behind in obtaining paperwork. Sounds extreme, but money
well spent, IMO. Gives me a headache just thinking of the red tape and
cost involved of having to re-create and/or redo, re-redocument,
re-certify shudder.