Visual STARs

It doesn't seem reasonable to me that this information should be discussed
with someone that obviously doesn't fly.......

......duh....

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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If a STAR is marked VISUAL (FUBAR VISUAL APPROACH), and shows
hand-drawn paths and landmarks instead of navaids, does that mean it's
intended specifically for VFR, or for both VFR and IFR, or what? I'm
a bit confused by it because I thought all STARs were instrument
approaches. At the same time, I've heard ATC clear commercial flights
for the XYZ VISUAL approach, which implies that as long as conditions
permit a visual approach, it's okay for IFR, even though it gives only
landmarks on the ground.

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dlevy writes:

It doesn't seem reasonable to me that this information should be discussed
with someone that obviously doesn't fly.......

Is it top secret? Do you have an answer?

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Mxsmanic wrote:
dlevy writes:

It doesn't seem reasonable to me that this information should be discussed
with someone that obviously doesn't fly.......

Is it top secret? Do you have an answer?

Yes and I'm not going to share it with you. If you would like to find
out the answer, read the books and follow the suggestions given many
times here for you to learn it.

Mxsmanic wrote:
dlevy writes:


It doesn't seem reasonable to me that this information should be discussed
with someone that obviously doesn't fly.......


Is it top secret? Do you have an answer?


It is not a secret. You will find almost all of the answers to your
questions from here. Bookmark this URL.

http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...ns/atpubs/aim/

All pilots should have a hard copy and I have mine, although I will
admit that it is out of date. But, I do have access to the web.

Just remember that Google is your friend.

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Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
CPCEL-IA
KSWI

-----Original Message-----
From: Ross ]
Posted At: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:36 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
Conversation: Visual STARs
Subject: Visual STARs

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It is not a secret. You will find almost all of the answers to your
questions from here. Bookmark this URL.


http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...tions/atpubs/a
im
/

All pilots should have a hard copy and I have mine, although I will
admit that it is out of date. But, I do have access to the web.

Just remember that Google is your friend.

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Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
CPCEL-IA
KSWI

With the added responsibility placed on CFIs and schools to screen their
clients, I wonder if Mr. dlevy doesn't have a valid point?

Jim Carter writes:

With the added responsibility placed on CFIs and schools to screen their
clients, I wonder if Mr. dlevy doesn't have a valid point?

If so, you may as well shut down the newsgroup.

Security by obscurity doesn't work.

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Mxsmanic wrote:

Jim Carter writes:


With the added responsibility placed on CFIs and schools to screen their
clients, I wonder if Mr. dlevy doesn't have a valid point?


If so, you may as well shut down the newsgroup.

Security by obscurity doesn't work.

The group works fairly well amongst real pilots.

Yes, it does...... I know I have learned a lot here....none of which was
related to the "sim" guy.

"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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The group works fairly well amongst real pilots.

Ross writes:

Just remember that Google is your friend.

Unless pilots on the Internet.

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-----Original Message-----
From: dlevy ]
Posted At: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:58 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
Conversation: Visual STARs
Subject: Visual STARs

It doesn't seem reasonable to me that this information should be
discussed
with someone that obviously doesn't fly.......

.....duh....


You know, I was thinking the same thing. All of this information is
available in the AIM and other sources, but it would make good sense for
someone who wanted to appear to have been taught (therefore screened) to
fly in the US to get the "real world" info from active pilots.